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aceholleran Wed Jul 19, 2006 03:50pm
F2 delays game
 
While I'm at it, would like your opinions on this one, not spelled out in any rule book I can find.

Yes, this happens most often in LL, but I've seen it at frosh and JV levels, too.

After a pitch, R2 or R3 jumps to a big lead, daring F2 to throw him out. F2 decides one of these three:

a) Run at the runner
b) Make 435 fakes at the runner
c) Walk the ball back to F1

I say all of this delays the game. I once had (b) so glaringly that I warned the offense that I would eject F2 for delaying the game, which led to a major sh&tter (but no EJ). I maintain such an ejection is warranted, but how do warn/cajole/wheedle/eject/move the friggin' game along?

Your thoughts and experiences appreciated.

Ace

SAump Wed Jul 19, 2006 06:25pm
Let this soak in first
 
Quote:
I say all of this delays the game. I once had (b) so glaringly that I warned the offense that I would eject F2 for delaying the game, which led to a major sh&tter (but no EJ). I maintain such an ejection is warranted, but how do warn/cajole/wheedle/eject/move the friggin' game along?
Your thoughts and experiences appreciated.
Ace
Why did you warn the offense? :confused:

I know, a mental lapse, but I wanted to punch you before SDS. ;)

Hock9 Wed Jul 19, 2006 07:28pm
it's just attrocious baseball....but not much you can do
 
My son is 12 and plays in such games. The runner goes 15 feet, dances around a bit, the catcher fakes a bunch of times, eventually throws the ball back to the pitcher (or, at times, roughly into the woods). It's nauseating....and is best cleared up by knowledgeable coaches who say things like "Throw the ball back to the pitcher".

bluezebra Wed Jul 19, 2006 10:13pm
I used to give them a few seconds to play this bush game, then it was, "TIME. Runner back to your base. Catcher get the ball back to the pitcher. Let's play baseball."

Unless you get paid by the hour.

Bob

briancurtin Wed Jul 19, 2006 10:35pm
call a delay of game penalty. pitcher moves up 5 yards, repeat the count.

mick Thu Jul 20, 2006 06:31am
Quote:
Originally Posted by aceholleran
While I'm at it, would like your opinions on this one, not spelled out in any rule book I can find.

Yes, this happens most often in LL, but I've seen it at frosh and JV levels, too.

After a pitch, R2 or R3 jumps to a big lead, daring F2 to throw him out. F2 decides one of these three:

a) Run at the runner
b) Make 435 fakes at the runner
c) Walk the ball back to F1

I say all of this delays the game. I once had (b) so glaringly that I warned the offense that I would eject F2 for delaying the game, which led to a major sh&tter (but no EJ). I maintain such an ejection is warranted, but how do warn/cajole/wheedle/eject/move the friggin' game along?

Your thoughts and experiences appreciated.

Ace
Between innings, I call each manager and ask for help.
They will fix it.

If, by chance, the managers do not respond, then I can only watch.
mick

chicago11 Thu Jul 20, 2006 06:43am
My question is - who is really delaying the game? Is it the catcher trying to get the runner back to the bag or is it the runner dancing and juking around? If there is no dancing, then there would be no delay.

aceholleran Thu Jul 20, 2006 06:46am
Quote:
Originally Posted by chicago11
My question is - who is really delaying the game? Is it the catcher trying to get the runner back to the bag or is it the runner dancing and juking around? If there is no dancing, then there would be no delay.
IMHO: Runner has every right to juke here; he is putting himself at risk of being put out, no?

BTW: I told catcher to make a play on the runner or get the rock back to F1.

Ace

mick Thu Jul 20, 2006 07:03am
Quote:
Originally Posted by aceholleran
IMHO: Runner has every right to juke here; he is putting himself at risk of being put out, no?

BTW: I told catcher to make a play on the runner or get the rock back to F1.

Ace
That'll work until the catcher throws the ball into centerfield because "the ump told me to...." :)
mick

ctblu40 Thu Jul 20, 2006 08:22am
Ther's really not much you can you can do with this. Talk to both skippers, they'll probably help. If not, when it's obvious that the reunner is no longer trying to advance, call "TIME," very loudly. It should stop after that.


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