National Federation rule chances for 2007

[bossman72]

Originally Posted by Carbide Keyman

What is the POE concerning umpires professionalism all about ?

It's probably the one that's in there every year about not picking and choosing rules to enforce.



I personally would never like to see it be mandatory for defensive players to wear face protection- hopefully it won't carry over to umpires since, if you think about it, we're the closest person to the batter other than the pitcher when we're in B or C, the older guys are not as quick and agile as an 18 yr old boy, and we don't have a glove to defend ourselves.

I've generally been a supporter of FED rules, except for 1 or 2 off the top of my head. This new rule, if it comes to fruition, will also be added to my exceptions list.

[briancurtin]

"A new signal was adopted that uses the point motion for the start of the game. This will align NFHS officials with other rules codes to begin a contest and put a ball back in play."

this might be a dumb question, but since i have not worked FED previously, what were you previously supposed to do to start a game and put a ball back into play? ive been pointing the ball in since i was 14 and never noticed anyone do it differently.

[bossman72]

use the beckoning motion- palm out towards pitcher, then turn palm towards face and pull inward - i never did it either

[LakeErieUmp]

Isn't that the signal for "hey, how 'bout some Gatorade!"

[SanDiegoSteve]

Originally Posted by bossman72

use the beckoning motion- palm out towards pitcher, then turn palm towards face and pull inward - i never did it either

Not once in 20 years of FED ball did I ever use this signal. It's about time they matched the published signal with what umpires really use.

[SAump]

"In another change, Rule 6-2-1 now states that a ball will be called each time a pitcher brings his pitching hand in contact with his mouth, either without distinctly wiping off the pitching hand before it touches the ball or while in contact with the pitcher's plate."

A ball or a balk, any word about runners staying in place or awarded one base?

[SAump]

Originally Posted by NFHS

In another effort to minimize risk, Rule 10-2-1 was revised to specify that when behind the plate, the umpire-in-chief shall wear proper safety equipment including, but not limited to chest protector, face mask, throat guard, plate shoes, shin guards and protective cup (if male).

Originally Posted by Rich Fronheiser

Throat guard? That's funny. The day the NFHS tells me what to wear behind the plate is the day I pack it in. I hate dangling throat protectors and I wouldn't wear one even if I didn't have a helmet.

It is a NFHS rule addressing what an UIC shall do and a post about Rich boasting just how stubborn he can be about doing it. I got a good laugh out of those two threads posted back to back. We would all hate to see Rich pack it in. We understand Rich, please, just add the damn thing to your equipment.

Originally Posted by Carbide Keyman

What is the POE concerning umpires professionalism all about ? Doug

Let's ask all those guys who refuse to properly equip themselves. Blame Carl if you feel any better. Anyone care to address this.

[DG]

My mask has a throat guard on it, it's an extended frame mask...

[Rich]

Originally Posted by SAump

It is a NFHS rule addressing what an UIC shall do and a post about Rich boasting just how stubborn he can be about doing it. I got a good laugh out of those two threads posted back to back. We would all hate to see Rich pack it in. We understand Rich, please, just add the damn thing to your equipment.



Let's ask all those guys who refuse to properly equip themselves. Blame Carl if you feel any better. Anyone care to address this.

I need to be told what to wear? I'll wear a dangling throat protector the next time I cover 3rd base as the PU on a triple.

[briancurtin]

Originally Posted by SAump

It is a NFHS rule addressing what an UIC shall do and a post about Rich boasting just how stubborn he can be about doing it. I got a good laugh out of those two threads posted back to back. We would all hate to see Rich pack it in. We understand Rich, please, just add the damn thing to your equipment.

i wouldnt do it either if i had a hockey helmet. add me to the list.

[LDUB]

Originally Posted by Rich Fronheiser

Throat guard? That's funny. The day the NFHS tells me what to wear behind the plate is the day I pack it in. I hate dangling throat protectors and I wouldn't wear one even if I didn't have a helmet.

Requiring a throat guard does not mean that you must attach a dangling throat guard to your mask. Throat protectors are already required for catchers, but that doesn't mean they have to wear a dangling throat guard, rather it means that they must have some sort of throat protection. NFHS says "The throat protector, which is either part of or attached to the mask, must "adequatly" protect."

[Carl Childress]

Originally Posted by Rich Fronheiser

I need to be told what to wear? I'll wear a dangling throat protector the next time I cover 3rd base as the PU on a triple.

Very funny!

Of course, the National Federation system calls for that mechanic, which is the way the pros did it in the two-person system from 1905 to 1970 or thereabouts.

I'm always amazed that "modern" umpires, like you, know so much more than those in the Hall of Fame.

BTW: I won't wear the dangler, either. It's not a rule that can be enforced unless the State Association does it. Who will police it? It's among the more stupid moves they've made. Two rules where I think they screwed up worse are: (1) Allowing the pitcher in the set position to check the runners by swinging his shoulders; and (2) reinstating the appeal rule.

Lah, me.

[SAump]

Wear the throat protection.
Assignors must be asking how they are going to enforce this rule.
The NFHS must insure that everyone is properly equipped as mandated.
PUGIL STICKS.
Take boxing lessons to learn why you keep your chin down or just wear the thing.
Test the foot, the shin, the knee, the cup (lightly), the chest, the throat and the face before each ballgame.
Breath in and cough twice and then let's strap it on.

[briancurtin]

why do you continue to make posts like that?

[briancurtin]

no, im just wondering why you string the most random thoughts together all the time. you went from the demand "wear the throat protection", to "breath in and cough twice and then let's strap it on."