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Old Wed Mar 23, 2005, 09:00pm
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A foul tip is a dead ball, and runners may not advance..... ( I learn something new every time I take the field....)
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Old Wed Mar 23, 2005, 11:17pm
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Ive not heard that...

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Old Wed Mar 23, 2005, 11:27pm
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Only in slow pitch. See Rule 2-25-2.
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Old Thu Mar 24, 2005, 12:18am
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apparently its something new..... a coach told me..and they are NEVER wrong.......... right? :-)
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Old Thu Mar 24, 2005, 09:15am
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A foul tip is a dead ball, and runners may not advance..... ( I learn something new every time I take the field....)
Actually that is true and has been for years. Of course, I'm using the Tim McCarver "foul tip to the screen" definition!
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Old Thu Mar 24, 2005, 11:37am
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Whaddaya mean you never heard of this rule. It's listed on the same page that tells you the hands are part of the bat..............

And I've never known a coach to be wrong


must be going a bit nuts with all the rain/snow outs this week.
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Old Thu Mar 24, 2005, 11:39am
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the bad part is that the coach kept yelling it from the dugout..finally had to call time and educate a little bit
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Old Thu Mar 24, 2005, 12:05pm
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lol

amazing.
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Old Thu Mar 24, 2005, 12:18pm
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A foul tip is a dead ball, and runners may not advance..... ( I learn something new every time I take the field....)
Do ya think this had anything to do with them allowing mens leagues in asa to steal?
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Old Thu Mar 24, 2005, 12:33pm
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While we are talking about the things that coaches know, I can "one-up" this one.

Two weeks ago I was working a NJCAA game. Infield fly was in effect. The batter hit a Mt. Everest of a pop-up that F5 was camped under standing in foul territory. I call "infield fly batter out if fair," since it was close to the line. At the last minute, a gust of wind blows the ball fair, just over the line, and the fielder juts her glove out to catch the ball, and drops it. I call the batter out. Home coach comes out of the dugout and questions how I could have the out, since the fielder was standing in foul territory when she touched the ball. I agreed that the fielder was indeed in foul territory, but when she first touched the ball, it was in fair territory and the location of the ball was all that mattered in determining fair or foul status. After a brief discussion in which she promised to look up the rule since she knew I was wrong, I informed her that the play would stand. (Nope, this isn't the end of it.)

As I was walking back to take my position behind the plate, I hear the visiting team's coach say to his assistant, "Wow! We got a free out on that one. It should have been a foul ball."

And these are the guys who get paid to "know the game."

Sheesh.
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Old Thu Mar 24, 2005, 12:59pm
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You must not have heard of the 'weather is part of the ball' rule.

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Old Thu Mar 24, 2005, 01:09pm
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A foul tip is a dead ball, and runners may not advance..... ( I learn something new every time I take the field....)
Do ya think this had anything to do with them allowing mens leagues in asa to steal?
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Haven't the men always been allowed to steal? Oh, you are talking about SP. Well, he would still have it wrong as the ball is live and in play on a foul tip in SP where stealing is allowed.

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Old Thu Mar 24, 2005, 02:45pm
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the bad part is that the coach kept yelling it from the dugout..finally had to call time and educate a little bit
Darell - you need to let me know which coach this was....
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Old Thu Mar 24, 2005, 05:54pm
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I had a college coach tell me that the hands were part of the bat. I told her they weren't and she asked me to ask my partner for help. Hmmmmmmmmmm. I told her that I did not need any help on that one.
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Old Fri Mar 25, 2005, 12:36am
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Hell i've had a umpire agree with a coach that hands were part of the bat. I think I posted here when it happened last year.
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