Change in Uncaught Third Strike Rule?

[SanDiegoSteve]

Wow, must be nice. Very few HS yards have grass outside the foul lines, and I can't think of any municipal yards that have it either. But that does not answer my question. What about when there is no circle?

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve

Wow, must be nice. Very few HS yards have grass outside the foul lines, and I can't think of any municipal yards that have it either. But that does not answer my question. What about when there is no circle?

I will have to agree with Rich as well. Maybe this is something that is common in your parts, but is not common in other parts. I have rarely work a HS game on a completely dirt infield. I can only think of two fields where a dirt infield was used in two different states that I worked baseball at the HS level. Now when you talk about LL or park district games this percentage goes up. Even the Park districts that I have seen for the most part have a grass infield and grass near the dugouts.

Peace

[SanDiegoSteve]

Originally Posted by JRutledge

I will have to agree with Rich as well. Maybe this is something that is common in your parts, but is not common in other parts. I have rarely work a HS game on a completely dirt infield. I can only think of two fields where a dirt infield was used in two different states that I worked baseball at the HS level. Now when you talk about LL or park district games this percentage goes up. Even the Park districts that I have seen for the most part have a grass infield and grass near the dugouts.

Peace

Are you always going to misread what I say?

I never said anything about completely dirt infields. I said grass outside the foul lines. There are some, but not very many here. Nearly all fields have grass infields/outfields at the HS level. Some have grass everywhere, but most do not. I think the main reason is watering issues, since we live in a constant state of drought.

Nickrego,

A lot of OBR games are played on HS fields here, especially adult baseball.

[nickrego]

lets remember that this rule does not apply to FED / HS ball.

I wouldn't try to enforce it in armature OBR ball until you see it in the rule books that are issued for that league, or it is specifically covered during an association meeting where they indicate to enforce it. That is, unless you love standing in a $hit house on a regular basis.

[TwoBits]

Originally Posted by nickrego

lets remember that this rule does not apply to FED / HS ball.

I wouldn't try to enforce it in armature OBR ball until you see it in the rule books that are issued for that league, or it is specifically covered during an association meeting where they indicate to enforce it. That is, unless you love standing in a $hit house on a regular basis.

Agreed. For example, USSSA uses the OBR book "as published by the Sporting News". So if it isn't in that particular rule book, then I won't be enforcing the new rule in USSSA.

[ozzy6900]

Just curious, since when is the OBR book "as published by the Sporting News" the Official OBR book? I have 3 MLB (OBR) rule books at home and none of them were published by the Sporting News. All of them were published by "MLB in accordance with the PBUC and the MLB Player's Association".

[bossman72]

mrumpire11,

where did you get this list of rule changes and where can we see the complete list?

[TwoBits]

Originally Posted by ozzy6900

Just curious, since when is the OBR book "as published by the Sporting News" the Official OBR book? I have 3 MLB (OBR) rule books at home and none of them were published by the Sporting News. All of them were published by "MLB in accordance with the PBUC and the MLB Player's Association".

I didn't say it was the official rule book of MLB or any other professional or amateur league. But it is the official rule book of USSSA baseball.

[briancurtin]

Originally Posted by ozzy6900

Just curious, since when is the OBR book "as published by the Sporting News" the Official OBR book? I have 3 MLB (OBR) rule books at home and none of them were published by the Sporting News. All of them were published by "MLB in accordance with the PBUC and the MLB Player's Association".

there is the NBC (national baseball congress) and TSN (the sporting news) versions, probably more but i dont know off the top of my head. some places say that rules as published by Sporting News are the official ones for the league. there are very small differences, and someone earlier said that most people cant even find the few tiny differences there are. edit: i just read an older thread and found that the differences are in the wording, not interpretation

heres the TSN version at amazon: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/089...lance&n=283155
im not sure what 3 letters denote this one, but most of the older OBR books i have are based off of this one: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/157...lance&n=283155

[mrumpire11]

boss...i got my list when i went to pbuc this year. like i said before, those are the only major changes. all the other changes deal with redundant wording and administrative stuff.

-the definition of the league president was modified.
-they are now using gender-neutral references
-the wording was change on how the umpires "remove the gloss" on new baseballs
-wording changed with regard to the official rosin bag
-automatic 10 game suspension to person intentionally defacing baseball
-optional suspended game rule (players union is voting on this one for the 2007 season, i believe)
-wording was changed with regard to protestes
-"experimental rule" which was used by MiLB last season. if a batter refuses to take his postion in the batters-box, time will be called and one strike shall be added to the count.
-experimental pace-of-game rule, defines when a batter can/can not leave the batters box
-wording changed to elimante redundant rules regarding the 3-foot running lane
-new rule added: "one base, if a fielder deliberately ouches a pitched ball with his cap, mask or any part of his uniform detached from its proper place on his person. the ball is in play, and the award is made from the position of the runner at the time the ball was touched."
-redundant wording, batter hitting ball with bat second time. 7.09(b) and 6.05(h) wording was indentical
-with no runners on base, the pitcher is not required to come to a complete stop when using the set position
-posession of foreign substance, automatic 10 game suspension
-time limitation for pitcher to deliver the ball with no runners on base changed from 20seconds to 12seconds

"rules require approval of the Major League Players Association for implemention at the Major League leavel in 2006. As of this writing, the players association has approved, (gender-neutral, redundant rule w/3foot running lane, batter hitting ball second time). All 23 changes are effective for the 2006 season at all other levels of professional baseball as well as leagues that play under the Official Baseball Rules."

hope that hepls