First game on the dish...ever

[Rich]

Originally Posted by Clint Lawson

I have never seen a JV pitcher throw 85mph.

I'm glad somebody said something.

[moorg]

Originally Posted by Clint Lawson

I have never seen a JV pitcher throw 85mph.

I generally subtract 15 from anything that I do not see on a JUGS gun for myself.

[LMan]

Originally Posted by Armadillo_Blue

NFHS mechanics put the umpire in B with R3.

Grey's association's mechanics line up with what we were taught at the IHSA clinics.

Kyle

If thats so, I apologize for speaking without all the facts. Guess Im the incompetent one! (which would be no surprise to some )

[LakeErieUmp]

Heck, I'VE never seen a pitch at any level I could time for speed by my little self!
Congrats on getting through your first game. Now you can stop worrying and start enjoying your work!

[ToGreySt]

Originally Posted by LMan

If thats so, I apologize for speaking without all the facts. Guess Im the incompetent one! (which would be no surprise to some )

does your association teach being in C with R3 only?

just curious

Joe

[DG]

Originally Posted by Armadillo_Blue

NFHS mechanics put the umpire in B with R3.

Grey's association's mechanics line up with what we were taught at the IHSA clinics.

Kyle

Not in my FED Umpire's Manual and I would not be in B with R3.

[LakeErieUmp]

I only have my 2005-2006 Fed book with me and it shows BU at C with runner at Third Base only. (pg. 48 - Article 4) Did Fed change the mechanic in the new book? BU at C seems the right mechanic since the only likely play by the catcher will be a throw to third.

[DG]

Get a copy of CCA Manual, and/or Manual for the Two-Umpire System put out by PBUC and throw the FED Umpires Manual in the trash when it comes with your rule and case books.

In your next pre-game go over the coverages that your partner in this game was not aware he was responsible for, and if you ever get assigned another game with the smae guy, make sure he knows what his responsibilities are for these situations. Don't tell the assignor you can't work with him, but if he is assigned again, be prepared that he might not know anymore that he did last time about where he is supposed to be and what calls he is supposed to make.

[Justme]

Originally Posted by DG

Get a copy of CCA Manual, and/or Manual for the Two-Umpire System put out by PBUC and throw the FED Umpires Manual in the trash when it comes with your rule and case books.

In your next pre-game go over the coverages that your partner in this game was not aware he was responsible for, and if you ever get assigned another game with the smae guy, make sure he knows what his responsibilities are for these situations. Don't tell the assignor you can't work with him, but if he is assigned again, be prepared that he might not know anymore that he did last time about where he is supposed to be and what calls he is supposed to make.

I searched and searched but I can't seem to find my copy of the CCA Manual. I did happen to find my copy of the PBUC Manual For The Two-Umpire System.

BU positioning:

Runner on:
1B = B (same as FED)
2B = C (same as FED)
3B = C (same as FED)
1B & 2B = C (same as FED)
1B & 3B = B (FED is C)
2B & 3B = C (same as FED)
Loaded = C (same as FED)

As I recall, but can't confirm tonight, the CCA Manual is the same as PBUC.

I found my CCA manual but it is the 2003 model (last time I needed it). Positioning is the same as PBUC.

[kylejt]

Originally Posted by Clint Lawson

I have never seen a JV pitcher throw 85mph.

There was a twelve year in my town throwing 81mph. Perhaps you caught his 18 K's in six innings on TV. That's 81mph from 46'. I did most of his games last year, and they were, ah, interesting.

Kyle

[SanDiegoSteve]

Originally Posted by Clint Lawson

I have never seen a JV pitcher throw 85mph.

The JV right fielder that had never pitched before who took me out of the game (only time ever) with a fastball directly to my left elbow, was throwing well over 85 mph. He had no clue where the ball was going and the catcher was so overmatched he couldn't get a glove on the ball.

[SanDiegoSteve]

Originally Posted by Armadillo_Blue

NFHS mechanics put the umpire in B with R3.

Another great reason not to use them, IMO.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by Armadillo_Blue

NFHS mechanics put the umpire in B with R3.

Grey's association's mechanics line up with what we were taught at the IHSA clinics.

Kyle

Remember that IHSA mechanics are NOT the same as FED mechanics -- and I think this is one of the differences.

[LMan]

Originally Posted by ToGreySt

does your association teach being in C with R3 only?

just curious

Joe

Yes, it does.

[Justme]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

Remember that IHSA mechanics are NOT the same as FED mechanics -- and I think this is one of the differences.

IHSA mechanics:

C position only when 3rd base is in imminent danger of being stolen (i.e., runners at 2nd or 1st & 2nd).

B position in all other situations with runners on base.