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Old Mon Apr 17, 2006, 08:27pm
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Quick Question

Somone called me and told me they had this play tonight as base umpire:

ball hit to F6 and BR crossed the base but stepped on F3 foot which was on the base. BR was across the base before the ball arrived and the ruling was safe.

There was an appeal to PU, and PU said out.

What is it?

Please state ruling/case play.
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Old Mon Apr 17, 2006, 08:37pm
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Why was the PU even helping on this play? The runner is safe because U1 called him safe.

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Old Mon Apr 17, 2006, 08:41pm
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Why was the PU even helping on this play? The runner is safe because U1 called him safe.

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I have no idea. I understand the BU called him safe, but where is the reference?

I understand PU getting involved if F3 pulls off bag or something like that, but the BU did not ask for help.
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Old Mon Apr 17, 2006, 08:45pm
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I don't have my rule books handy, but my take is the BR beat the throw to the bag, so he is safe. Now I suppose the PU was ruling that the BR never actually touched the bag because he stepped on F3's foot? I don't buy that.

I also suppose that after all the hopping and jumping around the F3 will learn to take the play properly.

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Old Mon Apr 17, 2006, 08:48pm
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nonetheless, the offense coach came out and was thrown out by the PU.
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Old Mon Apr 17, 2006, 08:48pm
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Obstruction

Sounds like F3 hindered the BR from touching 1B. Rule obstruction and award 1B. Play on. From the description this play wasn't close. Why look for trouble? The only reason the BR didn't touch the bag is because F3's foot was there, without the ball.
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Old Mon Apr 17, 2006, 08:57pm
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Sounds like F3 hindered the BR from touching 1B. Rule obstruction and award 1B. Play on. From the description this play wasn't close. Why look for trouble? The only reason the BR didn't touch the bag is because F3's foot was there, without the ball.
I agree, BR is safe but cannot find the reference. The thing in what you are saying is not obstruction due to a play being made so this cannot be obstruction, correct?

anyone with a reference? I have been searching rule 8 and cannot find it.

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Old Mon Apr 17, 2006, 09:13pm
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I doubt you will find a reference. Obstruction in this case is a stretch, as the bag was not blocked.

Was this HS or youth ball? I don't doubt that a coach was tossed because of the unsolicited over ruling by the PU.

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Old Tue Apr 18, 2006, 11:27am
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I'll tell you right now some OOO called the runner out for interference. This guy's a moron.
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