NFHS new Case Play

[SE Minnestoa Re]

Originally Posted by CT1

Up until this year, under NFHS rules, B/R was liable to be tagged out if he overran first base on a base on balls. That's no longer the case.

The problem typically arose when we had a check-swing with a 3-2 count on a pitch in the dirt that was originally ruled a swing (strike 3) but was changed to ball 4 on appeal.

PS: I've never seen this happen, probably because the defense had no idea that this was a rule and never tagged the B/R past 1st base. I also suspect that if that had happened, very few umpires would have known that rule either.

You can't change it to a ball if it was originally ruled a strike

[Welpe]

Originally Posted by SE Minnestoa Re

You can't change it to a ball if it was originally ruled a strike

That scenario was presented by Kyle McNeely this weekend at the TASO State Baseball Meeting as an example for why the change was made.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by Welpe

That scenario was presented by Kyle McNeely this weekend at the TASO State Baseball Meeting as an example for why the change was made.

If so, then he was wrong, too.

The usual scenario is that the pitch is called a ball, but BR runs anyway just in case it's reversed. When it's not, BR was liable to be tagged out if he overran.

[Welpe]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

The usual scenario is that the pitch is called a ball, but BR runs anyway just in case it's reversed. When it's not, BR was liable to be tagged out if he overran.

Honestly, I'm probably not remembering correctly what he said and this is it. So I'll withdraw my comment for now. I will send him an email for clarification.

[umpjim]

Originally Posted by Welpe

That scenario was presented by Kyle McNeely this weekend at the TASO State Baseball Meeting as an example for why the change was made.

And nobody questioned it?
The 2 most common situations would be the 3-2 check swing on a ball in the dirt or dropped appealed to a ball and a wild pitch ball four. There is also the casual step past 1B where the B-R would be at risk also if anyone knew the rule before the change.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by Welpe

That scenario was presented by Kyle McNeely this weekend at the TASO State Baseball Meeting as an example for why the change was made.

What scenario -- changing a strike to a ball on appeal?

Please tell me that isn't so.