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Old Fri Oct 19, 2018, 02:04pm
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Double hit or play on

Ball comes from back row Team A just over net to Team B.
Big middle for Team B mistimes her jump and jumps too early to smack it back down.
The ball is above the net; On her way down she tries to swipe at the ball but it tips up into the air, falls straight down and she bumps it to the setter.
Is that a block? and the second touch is actually the first touch and the team still has 2 more touches?
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Old Fri Oct 19, 2018, 02:56pm
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Based on your description, it sounds like she touches the ball 3 times. 1) Mistimed block 2) Swipe at the ball which she tips up 3) On the ball coming back down from her swipe, she bumps it to the setter. Assuming this is what you meant, a few comments. The first is was the players first touch of the ball a block or an attack? If it was a block, the height of the ball doesn't matter. What matters is did the player have some part of the body (typically the hands) above the height of the net? If not, this should have been the first contact. Assuming she did block the ball first, all contact with the ball on one attempt to block would be considered a block. The fact that she "swiped" at the ball in an upward motion is in my opinion a separate attempt to play the ball. Since she touched the ball on the "swipe" that would have been her first contact. The bump pass to the setter would have been her second and a double contact fault should have been called.
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Old Fri Oct 19, 2018, 11:02pm
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No no no, Tony, it's the same thing we see all the time. The ball is passed off serve/receive over the net for the middle to HAMMER the ball. But the MH mistimes, touches the ball above the net the next contact is pass to setter. Only 2 touches.
The official called it a double hit. I thought, why wouldn't that be a block and 1st touch?
This is a good one to interp IMO.
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Old Sat Oct 20, 2018, 01:20pm
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From what you described, the player's hands and the ball are completely above the net. There are two possible scenarios:

1. The player is in a blocking motion with any part of the body above the net, it's a block. If the player immediately digs the ball, the dig is the first contact. Legal. Play on.

2. The player is trying to "hammer" down (attack, not block) the overpass, but only slightly touches the ball. If that same player digs it, the dig is the second contact. Illegal. Multiple contacts. Point to team that over-passed it.

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Old Mon Oct 22, 2018, 10:09am
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To steal a saying from the old NFHS Forum days...

"If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck..."

A big swing likely isn't a block, so it would be first contact, followed by second contact by the same player.
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Old Mon Oct 22, 2018, 09:57pm
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Thanks for the feedback. It wasnt a big swing. She wanted to. It was as big as a beach ball. But being a youngster she mistimed it badly, knew she mistimed it, tipped it on her way down (ball above the net) and then passed the ball to Setter.
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