How to address an incorrect umpire

[Andy]

For those of you who say that an umpire should not refuse a protest, please refer to this thread about an experience I had several years ago:

https://forum.officiating.com/softba...requested.html

Given this situation, would you have accepted her "protest" and called the UIC?

Please especially note Irishmafia's response in the referenced thread....

[Rich]

Originally Posted by Andy

For those of you who say that an umpire should not refuse a protest, please refer to this thread about an experience I had several years ago:

https://forum.officiating.com/softba...requested.html

Given this situation, would you have accepted her "protest" and called the UIC?

Please especially note Irishmafia's response in the referenced thread....

No, that's not a protest. That's a coach asking your partner to "get help." Completely different.

I read the thread -- I would not have even engaged the coach on a partner's call. I would've told the coach s/he had her conversation, now go back to the dugout.

[AtlUmpSteve]

"Coach, for me to accept a protest and call for a UIC ruling, you have to cite a rule that you believe has been misapplied. You certainly know that an umpire does not have to request help for a judgment call; so what rule are you asserting has been misapplied?"

At least make the coach think of something more than wanting "help".

[robbie]

Originally Posted by Andy

For those of you who say that an umpire should not refuse a protest, please refer to this thread about an experience I had several years ago:

https://forum.officiating.com/softba...requested.html

Given this situation, would you have accepted her "protest" and called the UIC?

Please especially note Irishmafia's response in the referenced thread....

As stated by RICH, that was not a protest.
If, however, the wording was altered to:
"After she talked to him she came to me and said she wanted to Protest
Absolutely I would accept that protest.
I would state: "If you are protesting that will be $75 cash (NSA proceedure) and I will stop the clock."
Depending on her answer, the next statement would either be:
"Fine, I'll stop the clock and get the UIC"
or
"Then discussion's over - lets play ball."

Of course, if the latter, the NEXT statement may very well be "You're gone."

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by robbie

As stated by RICH, that was not a protest.
If, however, the wording was altered to:
"After she talked to him she came to me and said she wanted to Protest
Absolutely I would accept that protest.
I would state: "If you are protesting that will be $75 cash (NSA proceedure) and I will stop the clock."
Depending on her answer, the next statement would either be:
"Fine, I'll stop the clock and get the UIC"
or
"Then discussion's over - lets play ball."

Of course, if the latter, the NEXT statement may very well be "You're gone."

Okay, stop. You are trying to mate an apple with an orange and it doesn't work, there is already a fruit named ugli.

No, Robbie, using the word does not make it so. Like it or not, there must be some level of intelligence and common sense. If there is the remote possibility of a rule being misapplied, THAT is what the coach needs to protest. Simply saying you want help from the UIC means absolutely nothing unless the UIC was the third umpire on the field and that SHOULD never be the case.