The Official Forum  

Go Back   The Official Forum > Softball
Register FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
  #1 (permalink)  
Old Thu Apr 16, 2015, 07:33am
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: USA
Posts: 14,565
Quote:
Originally Posted by Insane Blue View Post
ASA Rule Set
Bases loaded the runner on 3rd is off base on the pitch when the batter hits a pop up down 3rd base line which. The runner is attempting to get back to the base but interferes with the 3rd baseman going to the ball who was playing in front of the bag. The ball ultimately landed foul just beyond the base.

I ruled interference on the runner runner is out. What should have been done with the Batter?

I talked to my local DUIC but not so sure of his ruling which I will post later.
I'm sort of surprised no one has asked the position of the ball at the time of the INT. It would only matter if the batter-runner was not declared out on the play.
__________________
The bat issue in softball is as much about liability, insurance and litigation as it is about competition, inflated egos and softball.
Reply With Quote
  #2 (permalink)  
Old Mon Apr 20, 2015, 06:34am
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: NY
Posts: 763
Quote:
Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA View Post
I'm sort of surprised no one has asked the position of the ball at the time of the INT. It would only matter if the batter-runner was not declared out on the play.
The question said "FOUL" so I assumed it was foul.
__________________
Kill the Clones. Let God sort them out.
No one likes an OOJ (Over-officious jerk).
Realistic officiating does the sport good.
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old Mon Apr 20, 2015, 09:30am
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Katy, Texas
Posts: 8,033
Quote:
Originally Posted by EsqUmp View Post
The question said "FOUL" so I assumed it was foul.
The question said it ultimately ended foul... but that's actually irrelevant, given that the play was killed earlier than that. Where was the ball when the play was killed?
__________________
I was thinking of the immortal words of Socrates, who said, 'I drank what?'”

West Houston Mike
Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old Mon Apr 20, 2015, 08:47pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 1,241
Quote:
Originally Posted by MD Longhorn View Post
The question said it ultimately ended foul... but that's actually irrelevant, given that the play was killed earlier than that. Where was the ball when the play was killed?
Given the way everything in the OP was worded, I took it to mean a rather high pop up that F5 should have a relatively easy time coming to make a play on. That was just how I understood the OP.
Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old Tue Apr 21, 2015, 07:57am
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Katy, Texas
Posts: 8,033
Quote:
Originally Posted by chapmaja View Post
Given the way everything in the OP was worded, I took it to mean a rather high pop up that F5 should have a relatively easy time coming to make a play on. That was just how I understood the OP.
Me too. But what you say here does not answer the question either. Where was the ball when the INT happened
__________________
I was thinking of the immortal words of Socrates, who said, 'I drank what?'”

West Houston Mike
Reply With Quote
  #6 (permalink)  
Old Tue Apr 21, 2015, 08:56am
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: PA
Posts: 537
Quote:
Originally Posted by MD Longhorn View Post
Me too. But what you say here does not answer the question either. Where was the ball when the INT happened
Since ASA is mentioned in the OP, it does not matter the location of the ball. Two out either way: 8-7-J Effect F.

Quote:
If the interference prevents the fielder from catching a routine fly ball, fair or foul, with ordinary effort, the batter is also out
It does matter for FED and NCAA.
Reply With Quote
  #7 (permalink)  
Old Tue Apr 21, 2015, 09:03am
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Katy, Texas
Posts: 8,033
Quote:
Originally Posted by Big Slick View Post
Since ASA is mentioned in the OP, it does not matter the location of the ball. Two out either way: 8-7-J Effect F.
Um .. that's not what MY rulebook says. 2 outs is the effect under "if the interference was, in the umpire's judgement, an attempt to prevent a double play..."
__________________
I was thinking of the immortal words of Socrates, who said, 'I drank what?'”

West Houston Mike
Reply With Quote
  #8 (permalink)  
Old Tue Apr 21, 2015, 11:59am
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: USA
Posts: 14,565
Quote:
Originally Posted by Big Slick View Post
Since ASA is mentioned in the OP, it does not matter the location of the ball. Two out either way: 8-7-J Effect F.
.
Not necessarily true. The rule cited requires that the 2nd out on the INT be rule only if the umpire judges the fielder could have caught the routine fly ball with ordinary effort.

And before someone states the it must have been or the INT never would have been ruled, those two highlighted words are not a requirement for an umpire to rule INT
__________________
The bat issue in softball is as much about liability, insurance and litigation as it is about competition, inflated egos and softball.
Reply With Quote
  #9 (permalink)  
Old Tue Apr 21, 2015, 06:43am
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: NY
Posts: 763
Quote:
Originally Posted by MD Longhorn View Post
The question said it ultimately ended foul... but that's actually irrelevant, given that the play was killed earlier than that. Where was the ball when the play was killed?
I went with the title of the post and didn't read into it. Seemed clear to me it was foul the whole time. But I get your point.
__________________
Kill the Clones. Let God sort them out.
No one likes an OOJ (Over-officious jerk).
Realistic officiating does the sport good.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Interference - Foul fly Zepp Softball 10 Tue May 28, 2013 01:37pm
Interference with foul fly MD Longhorn Softball 2 Mon May 21, 2012 02:49pm
Interference over Foul Territory Wendelstedt School Baseball 19 Fri Feb 15, 2008 12:29am
Foul interference? Shmuelg Baseball 12 Tue Jun 26, 2007 06:46am
Interference vs Fair/Foul mcrowder Softball 25 Sun May 14, 2006 07:32pm


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:46am.



Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.3.0 RC1