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ASA 2015 Rule Changes
2015 Playing Rule Changes and Comments
Rule 1, Stealing A: Adds Junior Olympic Boys 18 and Under and Men’s 21 and Under classification of play to those who can steal in Slow Pitch. Comment: Allows Junior Olympic Boys 18U and Men 21U to steal in Slow Pitch. Rule 2, Section 1: The pitching distance for Women’s Modified classification of play shall be 43 feet. Comment: Changes the pitching distance in Women’s Modified Pitch to 43 feet. Rule 3, Section 3F [2]: EFFECTIVE 2016 The use of the yellow optic cover, red stitch 11-inch ball with a core of .520 or under and a compression of 300.0 lbs. for Women’s Slow Pitch, Coed Slow Pitch (Women batters only), Women’s Seniors, Women’s Masters and Boy’s and Girl’s Junior Olympic Slow Pitch. Comment: Allows the use of the 52/300 11-inch ball in 2016 for all of the above classifications of play. Rule 4, Section 1D[2A] Exception: In all Junior Olympic Fast Pitch Pool Play Only; When a team elects to bat more than nine batters the game will continue with the skipped batter being recorded as an out whenever a player leaves the game for any reason other than an ejection. Teams cannot play with less than 8 players. Comment: Defines the shorthanded rule when batting more than 9 batters in all Junior Olympic Fast Pitch pool play. Rule 5, Section 5A [2] EXCEPTION: Removes Senior Slow Pitch classification of play from those who have to run out home runs. Comment: Allows for Senior’s to choose not to run the basses on a Home Run or Four Base Award. Rule 5, Section 9A [3]b: Senior Slow Pitch Run Ahead Rule will be – 20 after 4 innings and 15 after 5 innings. Comment: Removes Run Ahead Rule after 3 innings and defines the new run ahead rule for Senior’s Slow Pitch Classification of Play. Rule 5, Section 10A Exception: (Code310P) The Championship and “If” game in Junior Olympic 10 and Under ASA/USA Championship will have a two hour time limit. Comment: Allows for the Junior Olympic 10U ASA/USA only to have a 2 hour time limit in the Championship and “IF” game. Rule 7 Section 2E: (Fast Pitch) In Junior Olympic Pool Play only, teams have the option of having all roster players present bat. The Shorthanded Rule that applies to Fast Pitch will apply. Rule 4, Section 1 [a-d] and 2 [a-g] Exception Comment: Allows Junior Olympic Fast Pitch teams to bat everyone in pool play. Rule 7 Section 3D: (Junior Olympic) After entering the batter’s box, the batter must remain in the box with at least one foot between pitches and while taking signals and practice swings. Comment: Removes the requirement to keep one foot in the batter’s box for Modified Pitch Classification of Play.
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Andy, was there any discussion about the courtesy runner rule application if a team batted the roster in pool play? Obviously, teams that want to use the rule will be thinking the last out being able to run; while the absence of a rule means they don't have anyone eligible to run.
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My best guess is that the courtesy runner rule will remain unchanged. if a team wants to "bat the roster", they will not be able to use a courtesy runner.
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Suppose I have 15 players in my dugout. Are my only options:
- Bat 9. - Bat 15. What I'm getting at is the new rule seems to say you can bat "everybody". Can you leave a couple on the bench and bat, say, 12 or 13? Is batting "everybody" all or nothing? |
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The same questions was asked as the change was being debated...the intent is to allow the team to bat "up to" the entire roster.
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Assumed, but will that be published.
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So in Bret's scenario, if he has 15 at the game and decides to bat 12, and he loses one due to injury, he's not allowed to enter one of his three remaining bench players to replace her? And then if he loses a second starter due to injury, he has to forfeit due to the shorthanded rule?
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If a team has 15 players, bats 12, then the other three players are legal substitutes. The shorthanded rule would not come into effect until that team could not provide 8 batters in the lineup. I'm sure that there will be some additional clarifications issued regarding this.
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The shorthanded rule should apply at all times. The team can NEVER drop below 8 players. As noted in OP: Rule 4, Section 1D[2A] Exception: In all Junior Olympic Fast Pitch Pool Play Only; When a team elects to bat more than nine batters the game will continue with the skipped batter being recorded as an out whenever a player leaves the game for any reason other than an ejection. Teams cannot play with less than 8 players. Comment: Defines the shorthanded rule when batting more than 9 batters in all Junior Olympic Fast Pitch pool play.
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Here was the original scenario when the rule change was first proposed: Team has 13 players and elects to bat them all. Two players are injured and cannot continue in the game. Per the shorthanded rule (4-2-D), this game would be a forfeit, even though the team still had 11 players in the batting lineup and could field a full team on defense. The shorthanded rule goes into effect when a team drops below one less than they started with in the batting lineup. The rule change to allow a team to bat up to the number of players on the roster carries a provision that the shorthanded rule will not go into effect until a team cannot bat 8 players
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Is the confusion from terminology of the rule change explanation?
A team could "play shorthanded" if someone leaves regardless of how many in the lineup, so the shorthanded rule "applies". The forfeit provision that has applied in the past would cause a forfeit if the team was "short" more than one player, based on the original requirement of max. 9 batters. That math meant playing with 8 batting was ok, less than 8 was a forfeit. The new "rule" (or lack of it) to allow multiple extra batters then allows multiple short hands down to a minimum of 8. That implies the possibility of multiple shorthanded outs in the lineup, perhaps an entire inning. .................................................. ............. Comments: It would be better to stick with limiting shorthanded to one short. LRAMBF Soccer minimum is 7.
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Yes, I realize the likelihood of that happening is pretty slim. But why couldn't they just leave well enough alone?
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