One of those days at the tourneys..

[ASA/NYSSOBLUE]

Originally Posted by sp279

Two things I'm double checking myself on.....


2. Close game in runs. Runner on first and second. Girl hits to OF, slides into
2nd with a throw (called safe). Girl who was on second base rounds third and goes home...the one who was at first is now between 2nd and third (she hesitated to make sure she didn't need a tag up at 1st). The girl who slid at second has the ball under her, makes no attempt to move or get up while the
2nd baseman is desperately trying to reach through her legs, under her legs to get the ball but can't get the ball. She easily would have had at least a chance to make a throw to where ever that runner was going....which ended up being home. By the time the ball was dislodged all runners had scored. Keep in mind it was a good 4-5 seconds this ball was sat on. There were already two outs and both those runs made it a 1 run game (offensive team behind). That said, I called the base runner at second sitting on the ball out after the 2nd baseman finally got the ball out for interference. Offensive coach went ballistic as it ended the game (was last half of last inning, they were home) and they lost by one run. Opinions?

Had a tournament sitch like that once : Had someone brand new working the bases, so R1 on 1B, grounder to 2B, R1 runs into F1 , knocks her over and STAYS there for like 2 seconds, 2B finally gets a chance to make a way late throw to 1B, I wait a second for my unsure partner, and finally yell, DEAD BALL! Got R1 out on the tag, then got her for INT, as she prevented 2B from completing the DP. Of course, the OC went ballistic on the second out.

[Manny A]

Originally Posted by ASA/NYSSOBLUE

Had a tournament sitch like that once : Had someone brand new working the bases, so R1 on 1B, grounder to 2B, R1 runs into F1 , knocks her over and STAYS there for like 2 seconds, 2B finally gets a chance to make a way late throw to 1B, I wait a second for my unsure partner, and finally yell, DEAD BALL! Got R1 out on the tag, then got her for INT, as she prevented 2B from completing the DP. Of course, the OC went ballistic on the second out.

Hmmmm. Where was the Obstruction call?

I'm assuming you meant that R1 ran into F3. If that's the case, unless she went out of her way to purposely collide with F3, that's Obstruction. The moment that F4 tags R1 out, you then have to kill play and award R1 second base due to the Obstruction. The fact that R1 held down F3 for two seconds (and two seconds really isn't that much time in my mind to warrant an interference call; she could have been dazed from the collision) has no bearing on the play because there would have been no follow-up play on the BR allowed.

Unless I'm seeing things differently than what you describe, I've got runners at first and second here, not two outs.

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by ASA/NYSSOBLUE

Had a tournament sitch like that once : Had someone brand new working the bases, so R1 on 1B, grounder to 2B, R1 runs into F1 , knocks her over and STAYS there for like 2 seconds, 2B finally gets a chance to make a way late throw to 1B, I wait a second for my unsure partner, and finally yell, DEAD BALL! Got R1 out on the tag, then got her for INT, as she prevented 2B from completing the DP. Of course, the OC went ballistic on the second out.

Please redo this. This makes no sense. F1 is the pitcher. 2B is a base, not a fielder. When, and how, and by whom was R1 tagged? What really happened here?

PS - sounds like obstruction to me, before any possible interference.

[CecilOne]

I think this.
R1 on 1B, grounder to 2B, R1 runs into F4 , knocks her over and STAYS there for like 2 seconds, F4 finally gets a chance to make a way late throw to 1B, I wait a second for my unsure partner, and finally yell, DEAD BALL!

Got R1 out on the tag, then got her for INT, as she prevented F4 from completing the DP. Of course, the OC went ballistic on the second out. "

[Crabby_Bob]

Originally Posted by ASA/NYSSOBLUE

... Of course, the OC went ballistic on the second out.

Ballistic trajectory lands him in the next county, right?