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Two quick questions
Had this discussion- I was wrong (I guess): A girl on 2nd & 3rd. Batter drills it to center field, 2nd and 3rd score...batter gets to 3rd. Field ump saw her clearly miss first. Here comes the appeal, she's called out. What happens to the two runners that scored (NFHS rules)?
What do most of the umps use as a simple rule of thumb for penalty enforcement with illegal substitution (offense of defense) and batting out of order? Coaches sometimes confuse the two's penalties. TY
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(2) Batting out of order is not illegal sub, involves someone already in the batting order, has specific penalties or actions. Illegal sub is someone entering that was not in the lineup and can't legally enter as tried. If you are referring to the DP or FLEX, find one of the topics already discussed at length.
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just a clarification: in NFHS this appeal could also be a 'fourth out' appeal, and the defensive coach would be given an option to turn the 'fourth' out, into the 'third' out. thus no runs would sore.
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I thought the fourth out appeal had to be on a runner that scored.
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It does. You're right.
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Please explain how this works relative to the OP. I'm only asking this because I don't work Fed and obviously, not familiar with the rule.
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