NCAA Mechanics Question

[KJUmp]

Originally Posted by hit4power

So what's the preferred mechanic in this situation? Should PU have gone to BU to see if he saw bunt vs. slap before making the call?

Not clear as to why the DC would argue if the PU rang the batter up for strike three?

Are you sure that the sitch wasn't the PU first calling it a SLAP...foul ball; DC argues it was a bunt, PU goes to BU for help, call changed to BUNT...foul with two strikes batter OUT; now OC comes out a berates the PU for going for help after making the original call of a SLAP?

But to answer your question regarding the preferred mechanic in this situation...

Under Going for Help from the NCAA Manual...
......"Going for help on a slap or bunt on strike two is a very specific situation. The plate umpire is not required by rule to go for help when asked as in the case of a checked swing. The plate umpire should follow the same guidelines as in a checked swing by asking the [proper base umpire] if it was a bunt or slap attempt. The response from the base umpire is the same as in the checked swing."

I think that some of the other forum members who work NCAA would tell you that this mechanic is something we would cover in our pre-game. Specifically, might the PU have a two strike slap/bunt sitch where he would go directly to the BU for help (if needed) without being asked by the DC.

[hit4power]

Thanks, obviously, I meant OC not DC in my original post. Appreciate the response

[CecilOne]

Originally Posted by KJUmp

I think that some of the other forum members who work NCAA would tell you that this mechanic is something we would cover in our pre-game. Specifically, might the PU have a two strike slap/bunt sitch where he would go directly to the BU for help (if needed) without being asked by the DC.

Is that pre-gaming a deviation?

Isn't that implying we should pre-game any possible case where we would ask for help?

[KJUmp]

Originally Posted by CecilOne

Is that pre-gaming a deviation?

Isn't that implying we should pre-game any possible case where we would ask for help?

Answer to question #1-NO.
For two reasons, first, it's not a deviation as the SUP Manual instructs the PU to do that very thing. Second, check swings and bunt/slap sitchs procedures are its own topic on the pre-game checklist. Pre-game is the time to review the sitch and make sure the crew is all on the same page with this sitch in terms of responsibilities.
As the Manual points out, "going for help on a slap or bunt attempt on strike two with the ball going foul is a very specific situation."

Answer to question #2-As a separate topic from check swings and slap/bunts...YES.
Going for help-how, when, when required is its own topic on the pre-game checklist.