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Old Mon Jun 24, 2013, 02:18pm
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Why do you guys involve people who could screw it up (scorekeepers) by asking them questions they could screw up?

All you need from the scorekeeper is who is up to start the next inning. Get out your lineup card, and tell the coach who to put on 2nd.
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Old Mon Jun 24, 2013, 02:39pm
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Why do you guys involve people who could screw it up (scorekeepers) by asking them questions they could screw up?

All you need from the scorekeeper is who is up to start the next inning. Get out your lineup card, and tell the coach who to put on 2nd.
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Old Mon Jun 24, 2013, 03:04pm
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Why do you guys involve people who could screw it up (scorekeepers) by asking them questions they could screw up?

All you need from the scorekeeper is who is up to start the next inning. Get out your lineup card, and tell the coach who to put on 2nd.
Very good post, Thank You. If the coach sends up the wrong batter are we going to tell him/her ? If they send up the # 4 batter I am going to make sure by my line up card that the # 3 batter is on 2B.

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Old Mon Jun 24, 2013, 03:48pm
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Why do you guys involve people who could screw it up (scorekeepers) by asking them questions they could screw up?
Like for example: Who is up to start the next inning?
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All you need from the scorekeeper is who is up to start the next inning.
I have a lot more trouble seeing them mess up who bats before #32 then seeing them mess up who is up now.
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Old Mon Jun 24, 2013, 03:53pm
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Like for example: Who is up to start the next inning?

I have a lot more trouble seeing them mess up who bats before #32 then seeing them mess up who is up now.
Really? That makes sense. You think it's more likely they would be unable to tell you who is up next than answering correctly who is up before that person. That makes lots of sense.
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Old Mon Jun 24, 2013, 07:32pm
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Really? That makes sense. You think it's more likely they would be unable to tell you who is up next than answering correctly who is up before that person. That makes lots of sense.
Well, knowing who is up means you had to correctly capture the end of the last inning and potentially know the rules about who follows who. Maybe the last batter of the inning was out of order and the scorebook didn't notice. Maybe it was a caught stealing and she thinks the next batter is due up. But I think it would take a special blend of not able to keep the scorebook correctly to not be able to tell me who is up before a particular player.

But perhaps you just mean that it's harder to tell me who is before the person who is up than it is to tell me who is up. That I'll grant you. But once I find out who is up, which both you and I do by talking to the scorekeeper, the rest of it seems easy enough for the scorekeeper to do.
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Old Mon Jun 24, 2013, 06:53pm
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Why do you guys involve people who could screw it up (scorekeepers) by asking them questions they could screw up?

All you need from the scorekeeper is who is up to start the next inning. Get out your lineup card, and tell the coach who to put on 2nd.
I have my lineup card out. However, from years of working in a business where CYA is a very important thing, going to both books and checking what I show make sure that everyone is on the same page. Again, preventative umpiring.
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Why do you guys involve people who could screw it up (scorekeepers) by asking them questions they could screw up?

All you need from the scorekeeper is who is up to start the next inning. Get out your lineup card, and tell the coach who to put on 2nd.
Well, the wrong batter could lead off.
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What we have trained umpires to do in PONY and NYSSO is to have the base umpire check the runner with the 3rd base coach and the plate umpire to check the runner with the 1st base coach. They can then just call the number out to each other. The reason for that is because it gets the base umpire on the side of the infield he will be starting on. Even experienced umpires have been caught with their pants down on the 1st base line.
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What we have trained umpires to do in PONY and NYSSO is to have the base umpire check the runner with the 3rd base coach and the plate umpire to check the runner with the 1st base coach. They can then just call the number out to each other. The reason for that is because it gets the base umpire on the side of the infield he will be starting on. Even experienced umpires have been caught with their pants down on the 1st base line.
What do you do in 3-man?
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What do you do in 3-man?
3rd base umpire checks with 3rd base dugout. Plate checks with 1st base dugout. 1st base umpire brushes the pitcher's plate.
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Well, the wrong batter could lead off.
The wrong batter leading off is a BOO issue - and has nothing to do with who the correct runner should be.
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The wrong batter leading off is a BOO issue - and has nothing to do with who the correct runner should be.
+1 we should not care who they send up to bat, check your line up card and make sure the batter before goes to 2B. I agree it is nice to smooch with the coach and make sure that everyon is happy. NOBODY cares if I am happy !!!
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Old Tue Jun 25, 2013, 01:02pm
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+1 we should not care who they send up to bat, check your line up card and make sure the batter before goes to 2B. I agree it is nice to smooch with the coach and make sure that everyon is happy. NOBODY cares if I am happy !!!
If you're suggesting that we send to second the runner who is before the person who comes up to bat, rather than the person who is due up; I strongly disagree.
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Old Tue Jun 25, 2013, 01:16pm
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If you're suggesting that we send to second the runner who is before the person who comes up to bat, rather than the person who is due up; I strongly disagree.
Um ... what? You want to double check what you just said? Sounds like you're saying to send the person who is due up to 2nd base. I sure hope I'm mis-reading that.
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