Mechanics question for you NCAA folks

[DRJ1960]

College Mechanics please. (Play occurred in HS game. Partner stated he was using NCAA mechanics on play).

3 man HS Regional game. R1 on first, one out. Deep line drive between F7 and
F8. U3 goes out for catch / no catch. What are base responsibilities for PU and U1?
(In case it's not obvious to all: PU has the plate, U1 is at first and U3 started play on the first base side of second base).

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by DRJ1960

College Mechanics please. (Plat occurred in HS game. Partner stated he was using NCAA mechanics on play).

3 man HS Regional game. R1 on first, one out. Deep line drive between F7 and
F8. U3 goes out for catch / no catch. What are base responsibilities for U1 and U2?
(In case it's not obvious to all: U1 has the plate, U2 is at first and U3 started play on the first base side of second base).

First... fix your nomenclature: PU has the plate; U1 is at first, and U3 is the other guy.

Given that your initial setup is completely messed up, you're already slightly screwed. But if we ignore that ... the general answer is that if an umpire goes out, you revert to 2-man mechanics, which you should be pretty familiar with. In 2-man, what would BU (U1) do with a liner to the outfield and runner on first?

[DRJ1960]

What the D1 College ump stated was that the college mechanic differs from what Fed mechanics manual calls for.

[MD Longhorn]

It does differ, but U3 should not be on the first base side. Perhaps he is thinking baseball, but even then he should be "on an imaginary line extending from third base through second base, 10 feet from second base toward right-center field, set position, facing the plate" .. and NOT on the first base side.

[DRJ1960]

My apologies... in trying to be brief I misled you... U 3 was exactly as you describe ... which, if a line were drawn from the plate through 2nd base to centerfield is on the "first base side"...

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by DRJ1960

My apologies... in trying to be brief I misled you... U 3 was exactly as you describe ... which, if a line were drawn from the plate through 2nd base to centerfield is on the "first base side"...

So ... baseball positioning for a softball game.

In any case, the answer to your initial question is that if he goes out, BU's job is what it would be in a 2-man system.

[EsqUmp]

Originally Posted by MD Longhorn

It does differ, but U3 should not be on the first base side. Perhaps he is thinking baseball, but even then he should be "on an imaginary line extending from third base through second base, 10 feet from second base toward right-center field, set position, facing the plate" .. and NOT on the first base side.

I think that the choice of terms is causing problems. If you draw a line directly through 2nd base, you then have the 3rd base side of 2nd and the 1st base side of 2nd. With R1 on 1st base, the 3BU is on the 1st base side of 2nd base. The exact position being 10 feet from 2nd base on a line looking through 2nd base to 3rd base.

[MD Longhorn]

You're probably right... I should not try to process invoices and answer these at the same time!

[EsqUmp]

Originally Posted by DRJ1960

College Mechanics please. (Play occurred in HS game. Partner stated he was using NCAA mechanics on play).

3 man HS Regional game. R1 on first, one out. Deep line drive between F7 and
F8. U3 goes out for catch / no catch. What are base responsibilities for PU and U1?
(In case it's not obvious to all: PU has the plate, U1 is at first and U3 started play on the first base side of second base).

The set up is correct. 1BU is on the 1st base line. 3BU is on the 1st base side of the infield on a direct line from 2nd to 3rd base.

3BU is responsible for catch / no catch (provided he goes out in NCAA) between the left fielder and right fielder (the "V" as many call it). Once 3BU goes out, the umpire revert to a 2 umpire system. In this case, 1BU is responsible for R1's tag-up and for R1 into 2nd base. 1BU is also responsible for the BR to 3rd base.

Plate umpire is responsible for any play on R1 going into 3rd base.