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Old Mon Apr 29, 2013, 01:12pm
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OK, here's my 2 cents.

On both mechanics.

1) Did she go? - I always step out, point at my partner, loudly say his / her name (followed by) "Did she go". - I have never had any assignor or evaluator comment that I should do something different.

2) "timing play" ("unauthorized" ASA mechanic)

Up until January of this year, I have always used this mechanic as did most everyone I remember. HOWEVER, in January, I was working an ASA sanctioned game and gave it to my partner in "C" and he shook his head no.
I gave him a quizzical look and repeated the signal and he again shook his head no. (I KNEW there were 2 outs - and I knew there were runners on 1st and 2nd) He again shook his head no and pointed to the ASA on his hat.
We went on with the game and afterwords I asked him and that is the first I had heard about the signal "not existing" in ASA.....
I then inquired of a few others including a High School evaluator who commented that not using the "timing play" signal is one of the things he looks for when evaluating.
So this year, I have stopped using the "timing play" signal for HS or ASA games.

Any other tournament games, I start of not using it, but if I get a partner who uses it, I do also.
My philosophy there is, I really don't give a sh1t, let's play ball.

NCAA Games get the "2 out signal" from me

That is also my philosophy with those that use the IF signal and stick out one finger (to indicate one out - although I am always tempted to ask what the signal is with 2 outs!! - yuk, yuk, yuk)


I just do what I'm told.
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Old Mon Apr 29, 2013, 05:57pm
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I still can't figure out why NCAA wants us to use the timing play signal with two outs and no runners on base. It makes no sense. I've heard instructors say, "it is just a way to let your partner(s) know that there are two outs." Well, then let's signal no outs or one out as well, just to be consistent. Of course, that is all over-officious.

What else have people heard about signaling when there's no one on?
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Old Mon Apr 29, 2013, 06:32pm
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Old Mon Apr 29, 2013, 07:00pm
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NCAA Games get the "2 out signal" from me

That is also my philosophy with those that use the IF signal and stick out one finger (to indicate one out - although I am always tempted to ask what the signal is with 2 outs!! - yuk, yuk, yuk)


I just do what I'm told.
But a timing play does not require the pitch be made with two outs. There is the possibility of a timing play any time you have as many players on base as you need outs to end the half-inning.

And, IMO, when the play starts with two outs is the time a signal is the least needed.
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Old Mon Apr 29, 2013, 07:30pm
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But a timing play does not require the pitch be made with two outs. There is the possibility of a timing play any time you have as many players on base as you need outs to end the half-inning.

And, IMO, when the play starts with two outs is the time a signal is the least needed.
True, I've often (well sometime, not often) thought about that.

But as I said, I don't really care, I just want to figure out what the guy who is or is not going to ask me to do the next game wants.
I've got more things to do.
Heck in my HS association, they do want to signal no outs, 1 out or 2 outs.
And you know what, with no scoreboard (or worse yet inaccurate scoreboard operators) , sometimes that's not a bad idea.
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