high school game-ending procedures

[CecilOne]

Originally Posted by AtlUmpSteve

In Georgia, we convinced the GHSA several years ago that the suggested 10 after 5 was a carryover from slowpitch rules (shared rulebook; that does match slowpitch run rules).

As a result, our state adoptions match ASA; tiebreaker in the top of the 8th, 15 after 3, 12 after 4, and 8 after 5. Universally, not an option anywhere.

That I like!

MD & DE - 10 after 5
TBR - MD 8th, DE 10th

[CecilOne]

Originally Posted by HugoTafurst

How are you paid for resumed games?

By check.
Oh, you meant how much. Depends on whether more than 3 innings.

[HugoTafurst]

Originally Posted by cecilone

by check.
oh, you meant how much. :d depends on whether more than 3 innings.

:d

[BretMan]

10 after 5 in Ohio...plus, he have this state-adopted rule:

Any game may also end when both head coaches and the plate umpire mutually agree to shorten and terminate the game.

This can be used for any score, at any point in the game. I think I've only had it kick in once, when it was something like 20-0 after three innings on a cold wet evening. Sounds good on paper (we're ending early!), but those three innings still took almost two hours.

[SE Minnestoa Re]

Originally Posted by HugoTafurst

How are you paid for resumed games?

It depends. I know some associations have per inning charges. The association I am manager of kind of plays it by ear. Depends on travel, if they are going to make it up as part of a partial doubleheader and how many innings we need to work in the makeup game.

[MNBlue]

Originally Posted by SE Minnestoa Re

It depends. I know some associations have per inning charges. The association I am manager of kind of plays it by ear. Depends on travel, if they are going to make it up as part of a partial doubleheader and how many innings we need to work in the makeup game.

In the metro area, if we arrive at a site and don't start, we get 50% of the game fee. If we throw at least one pitch and don't finish, we get 67%. If we return to finish a suspended game, we get 67%.

For some reason, some schools either don't know that or don't agree with it and they do whatever they feel like doing - which is usally short changing us.

[ASA/NYSSOBLUE]

Originally Posted by MNBlue

In the metro area, if we arrive at a site and don't start, we get 50% of the game fee. If we throw at least one pitch and don't finish, we get 67%. If we return to finish a suspended game, we get 67%.

For some reason, some schools either don't know that or don't agree with it and they do whatever they feel like doing - which is usally short changing us.

The 'travel fee' for showing up and the game doesn't paid - except for forfeits of course - in our backyard in SE NYS is $30.

One pitch - full fee - although, of course we are 'suggested' not to do the one pitch and leave - HINT

in varsity to finish a suspended game, sometimes a full fee, sometimes not.

MN- your example is why scheduling and payment should NEVER be handled by individual schools - WAY too much opportunity for monkey business. WE may have to wait for our fees to work its way through a system, but the idea that our assigning agency is fairly independent, and that we have real contracts with them makes for smoother sailing in the long run, IMHO...

[Tru_in_Blu]

NH is 12 after 4.5 or 5.

I think it only came into play twice in 3 years.

[Manny A]

Originally Posted by Tru_in_Blu

NH is 12 after 4.5 or 5.

I think it only came into play twice in 3 years.

That's probably because 12 is too high, IMO.

[chapmaja]

Originally Posted by BretMan

10 after 5 in Ohio...plus, he have this state-adopted rule:

Any game may also end when both head coaches and the plate umpire mutually agree to shorten and terminate the game.

This can be used for any score, at any point in the game. I think I've only had it kick in once, when it was something like 20-0 after three innings on a cold wet evening. Sounds good on paper (we're ending early!), but those three innings still took almost two hours.

I had a similar situation last season in my season opener in Michigan. Host school is the visitor for the second game of a DH. They score 11 runs in the top of the first, and another 11 in the top of the second, allowing only 1 run in the bottom of the first. Score after 1 and 1/2 innings was 22-1. This was after a 11-3 win in the first game which took forever as the visiting school's players may never had played softball before. We actually stopped the game on account of darkness (we implemented a rule that we stop AT SUNSET TIME) The worst part was that it was 45 degrees and windy at the start and only got colder.

Technically the game was not officially complete, but both coaches agreed to call it a completed game even though we never got 3 innings in of the second game.

[chapmaja]

One of my former associations instituted a rule for all of their umpires. We follow the same rules as Michigan allows for with one exception. On unlit fields the game is stopped AT SUNSET. We don't allow pitches after sunset because of the risk of injury because of darkness.

This sets a hard deadline for when the game must be completed that both teams know before the games start.

[Manny A]

Originally Posted by chapmaja

One of my former associations instituted a rule for all of their umpires. We follow the same rules as Michigan allows for with one exception. On unlit fields the game is stopped AT SUNSET. We don't allow pitches after sunset because of the risk of injury because of darkness.

This sets a hard deadline for when the game must be completed that both teams know before the games start.

Maybe it's just me, but I don't particularly care for that rule. It essentially sets a drop-dead time limit that coaches can manipulate to their advantage.

There's still enough daylight right after sunset that play could continue. Conversely, you could have conditions before actual sunset time that makes it too dark to play. Why take away that judgment from the umpires?

You want to do this for rec play, be my guest. But high school varsity? No way.