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Old Sat Apr 23, 2005, 09:04pm
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Two umpires from the association worked this game yesterday.

Visitor's team coach took his team off the field in the third inning of a game on Friday after a collision at the plate.
Home team trailed 2-1 in the third and had runners at second and third. Home team player hits two run single, the second runner collided with the visitor's catcher.
The ruling on the field was that it was incidental contact and the visitor's coach felt that home team runner didn't slide, or try and avoid contact. Visitor's team coach decided to take his girls off the field.
The home team coach said, "Our runner tried to avoid the catcher, no doubt about it. It wasn't malicious. The catcher missed the throw and didn't have the ball. Our runner tried to go around her and they met and collided. It was incidental contact. It happens in a game. People are going to run into people."
Home team coach anticipates filing the necessary documentation with the state athletic association to have the game forfeited to his team.
Neither home team coach or AD were available for comment.

Doesn't look good for the association.

How would you have handled it? Comments. No HTBT-I wasn't working the game

[Edited by WinterWillie on Apr 23rd, 2005 at 11:49 PM]
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Old Sat Apr 23, 2005, 09:57pm
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Originally posted by WinterWillie
Two umpires from the association worked this game yesterday.

Visitor's team coach took his team off the field in the third inning of a game on Friday after a collision at the plate.
Home team trailed 2-1 in the third and had runners at second and third. Home team player hits two run single, the second runner collided with the visitor's catcher.
The ruling on the field was that it was incidental contact and the visitor's coach felt that home team runner didn't slide, or try and avoid contact. Home team coach decided to take his girls off the field.
The home team coach said, "Our runner tried to avoid the catcher, no doubt about it. It wasn't malicious. The catcher missed the throw and didn't have the ball. Our runner tried to go around her and they met and collided. It was incidental contact. It happens in a game. People are going to run into people."
Home team coach anticipates filing the necessary documentation with the state athletic association to have the game forfeited to his team.
Neither home team coach or AD were available for comment.

Doesn't look good for the association.

How would you have handled it? Comments. No HTBT-I wasn't working the game
Coach walks off before a complete game
Basically arguing a judgement call by the blues.

Forfeit!
Home team wins 7-0.
File the paperwork with your state high school association.
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Old Sat Apr 23, 2005, 10:47pm
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You have given us a “he said/she said” story; how can we respond?

”Visitor's team coach took his team off the field in the third inning. . . .”

” Home team coach decided to take his girls off the field.”

So who’s still on the field?

” visitor's coach felt that home team runner didn't slide, or try and avoid contact.”

Runner cannot contact a fielder unless it is a legal slide. Cannot stay on their feet and crash into the defender. Obvious case of interference and the runner should have been called out.

”The home coach said, "Our runner tried to avoid the catcher, it wasn't malicious. The catcher missed the throw and didn't have the ball. Our runner tried to go around her and they met and collided. It was incidental contact”

No, it is not incidental contact; it is obstruction under the NFHS 2005 obstruction rule. The rules committee has issued its interpretation that a defender moving into a runner’s path trying to catch an errant throw is obstruction. Protect the runner to home.

So who do we believe? We either have interference/runner out; or obstruction/runner to home.

Reading between the lines – sounds like something else had happened earlier in the game and this incident was the proverbial straw. Sounds like the visitor’s coach thought he was getting “homered” and that violent action against his team was being protected by the umpires.

But I wasn’t there!

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Old Sun Apr 24, 2005, 03:55am
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Umpires judgement as to what was called at the plate .
As we all know what you see up close can be viewed differently from the coaches boxes .
This is a forfeit as the team didnt return to the diamond or failed to resume playing after the PU called playball .
7.0 to the home team
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Old Sun Apr 24, 2005, 05:58am
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Kinda unsportsman-like (even if it was a bad call)of the coach and unfortunately itll teach the players the same thing.
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