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Honestly, this ruling has ALWAYS struck me as odd, despite the case play.
Let me walk you through why. What's the penalty for an illegal pitch? Specifically, in a play where the pitch is thrown and additional action happens (like, for example, R1 thrown out stealing 2nd, or batter hitting a fly out)
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Just because I disagree with a ruling doesn't mean I'm going to ignore it on the field.
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Say, for example, the batter swings and hits the catcher's mitt while stroking a ground ball to F6. R1 on second base (only runner) interferes with F6 as she runs to third, and there is no play on the BR. Does the penalty option afforded to the offensive head coach for catcher obstruction allow R1 to return to second and award the BR first base? Or do we still penalize R1 despite the catcher obstruction, rule her out for interference, and put the BR on first?
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If that's correct, then why the inconsistency? In my OP (which comes from NFHS case play 8.6.21 as BretMan pointed out), both the illegal pitch and the LBE penalties are enforced. Why not enforce both penalties here? Or am I missing something...?
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Just don't understand how you could have an illegal pitch when you have a no pitch call. Can a no pitch be illegal also?
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Because when a runner leaves the base early, the umpire is to declare "no pitch." It doesn't negate whether something was illegal beforehand. It's simply the mechanic. Perhaps some would prefer that "time" be called instead.
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Would not accepting the enforcement of the rule negate the play? And if you negate the play, how can you have interference on a play that didn't exist?
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But... I don't make the rulings, I just enforce them.
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