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Old Tue Feb 28, 2012, 10:37pm
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Not what happened in OP. BU repeated what his partner stated to the HC..."didn't see it hit her."

Curious as to how in an NCAA game you would "not allow the coach to go to [your] partner."
Why is the coach asking umpires individually? Taking a poll? Majority rules?
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Old Tue Feb 28, 2012, 10:58pm
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Why is the coach asking umpires individually? Taking a poll? Majority rules?
Because in any game, anywhere at anytime, over anything, a coach is capable of doing something like that.....or worse.

You took Sapper to task as to the way he responded ....("I would expect an NCAA umpire to know better.").
I'll ask again, same sitch, NCAA game coach comes to you after he received an explanation of the call by the PU and asks you for your opinion. He's calm, professional and respectful in asking the question....how would you handle it?
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Old Wed Feb 29, 2012, 07:38am
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Because in any game, anywhere at anytime, over anything, a coach is capable of doing something like that.....or worse.

You took Sapper to task as to the way he responded ....("I would expect an NCAA umpire to know better.").
I'll ask again, same sitch, NCAA game coach comes to you after he received an explanation of the call by the PU and asks you for your opinion. He's calm, professional and respectful in asking the question....how would you handle it?
I would first be disappointed in my plate umpire allowing the coach to come out and forum shop.

If the coach did come out, I would say something along the lines of, "Coach, I believe you just discussed this issue with the plate umpire. It really isn't proper to now come out and speak to me about an issue my partner has already addressed. It makes it appear that you are forum shopping and that's not good for the game. If you'd like for me to discuss the play with my partner, I will do that outside your presence and then we can provide you with a final ruling."

But again, what good does it do for the plate umpire to talk to the only and then "allow" the coach to go out and talk to your partner? If the plate umpire says, "No 'x' didn't happen" and the coach doesn't like it and talks to the base umpire who now says, "Yes 'x' did happen." What do you do? Maybe you need to work in a 3-umpire crew, that way you can get a third opinion to break the tie if necessary.
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Old Thu Mar 01, 2012, 11:24am
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My apologies...

The coach didn't just come out to me as the Base ump..he did ask the plate ump if he would see if I had anything different. The coach at no time addressed me...but, of course we did hear the "they just want to get out of hear" whining from the crowd...
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Old Thu Mar 01, 2012, 12:52pm
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The coach didn't just come out to me as the Base ump..he did ask the plate ump if he would see if I had anything different. The coach at no time addressed me...but, of course we did hear the "they just want to get out of hear" whining from the crowd...
Sapper....just so I'm clear on your sitch, so at that point did the PU get together with you away from the HC to see if you had anything different on the play?
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Old Thu Mar 01, 2012, 01:03pm
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Yes sir...

that is correct
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Old Thu Mar 01, 2012, 04:16pm
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This is a Dead Horse. However I will say this. At the 12U JO B Eastern National Championship Semi Final game in York, Pa. last year, my daughter had played about 15 games in 100 degree heat. She was at bat & hit the ball, everyone in the stadium saw a little dribbler to the F5 who made a throw th F3. My Daughter in the "Heat" of the moment ran about 4 steps to 1B, then felt the pain in her left shin where the batted ball hit her, she then fell to the ground in PAIN. Me as her Dad could tell that she was hit by the batted ball. As an Umpire she was out.
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Old Thu Mar 01, 2012, 06:24pm
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that is correct
Then your crew handled it perfectly......just like the NCAA manual suggests/recommends when dealing with the type of sitch that occurred with the HC in your game.
Nice job by you and your PU.

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