Odd play last night

[EsqUmp]

Originally Posted by KJUmp

Two things-

(1)......"and then I'm involved and tell him the same thing." Doesn't make it clear if the BU was talking to the HC or the PU, who may have come to him for help.

(2) What if the BU was just standing down in his position as the HC is discussing the play with the PU, and when he was finished with the PU, made a beeline straight to the BU asking him what he saw on the play?
How would you expect an NCAA umpire in that situation to respond to the HC's question?

I would not allow a coach to ask both or all umpires the same question. If the coach came out and asked, "didn't that go off my batter's foot" I would either get together with my partners to get the call right or if it was clear to me that it didn't, I would give and answer and not allow the coach to go to my partner. Getting a 50/50 vote doesn't do us any good.

[KJUmp]

Originally Posted by EsqUmp

I would not allow a coach to ask both or all umpires the same question. If the coach came out and asked, "didn't that go off my batter's foot" I would either get together with my partners to get the call right or if it was clear to me that it didn't, I would give and answer and not allow the coach to go to my partner. Getting a 50/50 vote doesn't do us any good.

Not what happened in OP. BU repeated what his partner stated to the HC..."didn't see it hit her."

Curious as to how in an NCAA game you would "not allow the coach to go to [your] partner."

[EsqUmp]

Originally Posted by KJUmp

Not what happened in OP. BU repeated what his partner stated to the HC..."didn't see it hit her."

Curious as to how in an NCAA game you would "not allow the coach to go to [your] partner."

Why is the coach asking umpires individually? Taking a poll? Majority rules?

[KJUmp]

Originally Posted by EsqUmp

Why is the coach asking umpires individually? Taking a poll? Majority rules?

Because in any game, anywhere at anytime, over anything, a coach is capable of doing something like that.....or worse.

You took Sapper to task as to the way he responded ....("I would expect an NCAA umpire to know better.").
I'll ask again, same sitch, NCAA game coach comes to you after he received an explanation of the call by the PU and asks you for your opinion. He's calm, professional and respectful in asking the question....how would you handle it?

[EsqUmp]

Originally Posted by KJUmp

Because in any game, anywhere at anytime, over anything, a coach is capable of doing something like that.....or worse.

You took Sapper to task as to the way he responded ....("I would expect an NCAA umpire to know better.").
I'll ask again, same sitch, NCAA game coach comes to you after he received an explanation of the call by the PU and asks you for your opinion. He's calm, professional and respectful in asking the question....how would you handle it?

I would first be disappointed in my plate umpire allowing the coach to come out and forum shop.

If the coach did come out, I would say something along the lines of, "Coach, I believe you just discussed this issue with the plate umpire. It really isn't proper to now come out and speak to me about an issue my partner has already addressed. It makes it appear that you are forum shopping and that's not good for the game. If you'd like for me to discuss the play with my partner, I will do that outside your presence and then we can provide you with a final ruling."

But again, what good does it do for the plate umpire to talk to the only and then "allow" the coach to go out and talk to your partner? If the plate umpire says, "No 'x' didn't happen" and the coach doesn't like it and talks to the base umpire who now says, "Yes 'x' did happen." What do you do? Maybe you need to work in a 3-umpire crew, that way you can get a third opinion to break the tie if necessary.

[Sapper33]

The coach didn't just come out to me as the Base ump..he did ask the plate ump if he would see if I had anything different. The coach at no time addressed me...but, of course we did hear the "they just want to get out of hear" whining from the crowd...

[KJUmp]

Originally Posted by Sapper33

The coach didn't just come out to me as the Base ump..he did ask the plate ump if he would see if I had anything different. The coach at no time addressed me...but, of course we did hear the "they just want to get out of hear" whining from the crowd...

Sapper....just so I'm clear on your sitch, so at that point did the PU get together with you away from the HC to see if you had anything different on the play?