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Old Thu Feb 23, 2012, 11:25am
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Never Seen This Happen Before — What's The Ruling?

I have never seen this happen in almost 40 years of coaching. The umpire ruled promply and definitively, but I have no idea whether the ruling was correct or not. Here is the play:

One out, runner on third. Batter swings and misses and strikes out, with the ball striking her arm and going to the backstop (catcher misses). Runner scores, batter reaches first. Umpire rules that the run can score, but rules batter out.

Seems to me that 1) ball should either be dead, no one can advance; or 2) ball remains alive and everyone can advance. Don't understand why one runner can advance, but not the other.
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Old Thu Feb 23, 2012, 11:34am
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You didn't specify which ruleset (high school/NFHS, ASA, etc.,), so I'm going to give the ASA answer.

If the batter swings and the ball hits her, it's an immediate dead ball, a called strike, and runners can't advance. If it's strike 3, the batter is out. The rule citation is ASA 8-6-D.

Did the umpire acknowledge that the ball hit the batter?
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Old Thu Feb 23, 2012, 11:46am
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I have never seen this happen in almost 40 years of coaching. The umpire ruled promply and definitively, but I have no idea whether the ruling was correct or not. Here is the play:

One out, runner on third. Batter swings and misses and strikes out, with the ball striking her arm and going to the backstop (catcher misses). Runner scores, batter reaches first. Umpire rules that the run can score, but rules batter out.

Seems to me that 1) ball should either be dead, no one can advance; or 2) ball remains alive and everyone can advance. Don't understand why one runner can advance, but not the other.
It's a dead ball strike in just about any code.

If the ball did not hit the batter or if the umpire did not see it, it's an U3K, so the batter could go to 1st.

Looks like either way, the call was wrong.
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Old Thu Feb 23, 2012, 12:36pm
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Nhfs

Sorry guys, this was a high school varsity game. NHFS rules
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Old Thu Feb 23, 2012, 12:57pm
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Sorry guys, this was a high school varsity game. NHFS rules
Don't think it really doesn't make a difference, it is the same in all. Any pitched ball that hits any part of the batter's body or uniform is a dead ball, whether they swing or not.
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Old Thu Feb 23, 2012, 01:08pm
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Don't think it really doesn't make a difference, it is the same in all. Any pitched ball that hits any part of the batter's body or uniform is a dead ball, whether they swing or not.
By using a double negative, do you mean that it does make a difference, or did you just mistype?
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Old Thu Feb 23, 2012, 01:16pm
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Pitched ball striking the batter is an immediate dead ball in all situations, all rule sets, both baseball and softball.
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Old Thu Feb 23, 2012, 06:34pm
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By using a double negative, do you mean that it does make a difference, or did you just mistype?

Yeah, that's what happens when you edit part of a comment and don't go back and reread the who thing.
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Old Fri Feb 24, 2012, 10:59am
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By using a double negative, do you mean that it does make a difference, or did you just mistype?
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Old Thu Feb 23, 2012, 01:00pm
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Sorry guys, this was a high school varsity game. NHFS rules
For NFHS the ruling is the same as the one previously given by NCASAUmp.
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Old Mon Feb 27, 2012, 09:57pm
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I agree with the guys, its a routine call. Dead Ball, runner returns to base. I suppose I see it a couple times a year as well.
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