NFHS - Umpire Responsible for Clearing bat

[SpringtownHawk]

A fellow blue was informed during a game last night by a HS Athletic Trainer that the Plate Umpire was responsible, or better stated, required, to clear a discarded bat from home plate. Unfortunately, I have yet to receive my 2012 NFHS Rule Book but I didn't find any reference in last years or the Umpire Manual. Any thoughts?

[EsqUmp]

I know of no association that REQUIRES the umpire to remove the bat. One philosophy is that if the plate umpire can safely, cautiously and carefully remove the bat, than he should do so. He can either hand it to an on-deck batter if that person is right there to slide it away. They are not, however, to do this unless they can do so safely, cautiously and carefully.

If R3 is coming home for a play at the plate, I won't likely be getting involved. If R2 is going to score on a hit to the outfield, there is generally enough time to remove the bat.

There may be a lot of "clones" out there afraid to do something that is not directed of them, but it is more negligent to leave the bat there when it can be removed safely, cautiously and carefully.

[RKBUmp]

Every association I work with has told us to leave the bat alone. The bat becomes part of the field after it leaves the batters hands. If the catcher wants it moved, let them move it.

Several reasons have been brought up, the main one being the liability issue. If you move the bat and then someone trips over and is injured, more than likely the blame is going to go on the umpire for having moved the bat. I was also told of a case where an umpire kicked a bat out of the way and then was blamed for damage to the bat and a claim filed against him.

[NCASAUmp]

Originally Posted by RKBUmp

Every association I work with has told us to leave the bat alone. The bat becomes part of the field after it leaves the batters hands. If the catcher wants it moved, let them move it.

Several reasons have been brought up, the main one being the liability issue. If you move the bat and then someone trips over and is injured, more than likely the blame is going to go on the umpire for having moved the bat. I was also told of a case where an umpire kicked a bat out of the way and then was blamed for damage to the bat and a claim filed against him.

Agreed. Leave the bat alone.

[CecilOne]

Originally Posted by RKBUmp

Every association I work with has told us to leave the bat alone. The bat becomes part of the field after it leaves the batters hands. If the catcher wants it moved, let them move it.

Several reasons have been brought up, the main one being the liability issue. If you move the bat and then someone trips over and is injured, more than likely the blame is going to go on the umpire for having moved the bat. I was also told of a case where an umpire kicked a bat out of the way and then was blamed for damage to the bat and a claim filed against him.

Thanks for saving me the typing.

[derwil]

Originally Posted by RKBUmp

Every association I work with has told us to leave the bat alone. The bat becomes part of the field after it leaves the batters hands. If the catcher wants it moved, let them move it.

Several reasons have been brought up, the main one being the liability issue. If you move the bat and then someone trips over and is injured, more than likely the blame is going to go on the umpire for having moved the bat. I was also told of a case where an umpire kicked a bat out of the way and then was blamed for damage to the bat and a claim filed against him.

+1. I'm not touching a bat.

[JEL]

Originally Posted by RKBUmp

Every association I work with has told us to leave the bat alone. The bat becomes part of the field after it leaves the batters hands. If the catcher wants it moved, let them move it.

Several reasons have been brought up, the main one being the liability issue. If you move the bat and then someone trips over and is injured, more than likely the blame is going to go on the umpire for having moved the bat. I was also told of a case where an umpire kicked a bat out of the way and then was blamed for damage to the bat and a claim filed against him.

That bat may also be in the exact spot the coach directed it to be discarded!

It ain't my bat, I didn't put it there, I ain't gonna touch it!

[Andy]

Originally Posted by JEL

...It ain't my bat, I didn't put it there, I ain't gonna touch it!

Thank you for stating this so eloquently!

[pob14]

At our statewide meeting last summer for the Illinois HSA, we were specifically instructed NOT to touch the bat, or any equipment. Or the players, but that's a different thread.

[SRW]

Originally Posted by EsqUmp

... but it is more negligent to leave the bat there when it can be removed safely, cautiously and carefully.

Now I see why the ESQ! You're an armchair attorney!

[HugoTafurst]

Originally Posted by SpringtownHawk

A fellow blue was informed during a game last night by a HS Athletic Trainer that the Plate Umpire was responsible, or better stated, required, to clear a discarded bat from home plate. Unfortunately, I have yet to receive my 2012 NFHS Rule Book but I didn't find any reference in last years or the Umpire Manual. Any thoughts?

That's why Umpires Umpire and Trainers..... well, train!

[EsqUmp]

Do what your association/UIC tell you to do. Then you can at least blame them. I am wondering if they are willing to put into writing that you cannot remove a bat.

There is a clear history of not allowing removal of the bat. I will not debate that.

The standard by which to judge negligence (which would be the basis of any lawsuit in this type of situation) is whether the umpire acted as a reasonably prudent person.

Would a reasonably prudent person remove the bat if he/she could do so safely, carefully and cautiously?

Or would a reasonably prudent person leave a bat in front of home plate knowing that there is a significant chance that the runner will slide into it and possibly get entangled with the catcher?

While some may argue that someone may trip over the bat if the umpire moves it, I think that the chances of that and the result of the potential trip would be much less than the runner sliding into the bat.

Nothing will stop an umpire from getting sued anyway.

[BretMan]

Do you have any record of any umpire, anywhere, ever getting sued for not moving a bat?

Not to say it isn't possible- anything's possible. But in all of the millions of games that have been played over the years, if this was a likelihood you'd think that there might be at least one example of it having happened.

Just saying, "You might get sued", might have a little more credence if there was some probability or precedence attached to it.

[Scooby]

I am not touching the bat either. In my mind the on deck batter has the same amount of time and a lot less to do. If a coach wants a bat moved have the on deck batter do it.

[NCASAUmp]

I agree, don't touch the bat. Start doing that, and the next logical conclusion is chalking the lines yourself after every batter.