Calling IP

[x-tremeump]

Originally Posted by mbcrowder

DEAD BALL!!! None of this matters, ball is dead.

Except for that pesky rule that says it is.

Hey Mike,

I am starting to feel an Umpire Bond here... IP is DD, OC takes play or penalty ?

Why is the ball Dead in ASA ?

[EsqUmp]

Originally Posted by xtreamump

Hey Mike,

Why is the ball Dead in ASA ?

IT'S NOT DEAD, as stated by Mike. It's not dead in ASA. It's not dead in NCAA. I must really be missing something here (maybe I am).

Illegal Pitch Effect: "If the batter hits the ball and reaches first base safely, and if all other runners have advanced at least one base on the batted ball, the illegal pitch is nullified." "Otherwise the manager has the option to take the result of the play or the illegal pitch is enforced by awarding a ball to the batter and advance all runners one base."

The play must be completed before the umpire calls "time" to address enforcement of an illegal pitch.

In this case, the batter did not safely reach first base. Therefore, the coach has an option to take the result of the play or enforcement of the illegal pitch (ball on batter and all runners get a base).

Additionally, "An umpire may not call time while any play is in progress" (except injured player needing immediate attention).

WHY IS THE BALL DEAD WHEN THE PLAY ISN'T OVER?

[x-tremeump]

Originally Posted by EsqUmp

IT'S NOT DEAD, as stated by Mike. It's not dead in ASA. It's not dead in NCAA. I must really be missing something here (maybe I am).

Illegal Pitch Effect: "If the batter hits the ball and reaches first base safely, and if all other runners have advanced at least one base on the batted ball, the illegal pitch is nullified." "Otherwise the manager has the option to take the result of the play or the illegal pitch is enforced by awarding a ball to the batter and advance all runners one base."

The play must be completed before the umpire calls "time" to address enforcement of an illegal pitch.

In this case, the batter did not safely reach first base. Therefore, the coach has an option to take the result of the play or enforcement of the illegal pitch (ball on batter and all runners get a base).

Additionally, "An umpire may not call time while any play is in progress" (except injured player needing immediate attention).

WHY IS THE BALL DEAD WHEN THE PLAY ISN'T OVER?

Come on Mike tell us something that we don't know..

[BretMan]

Originally Posted by EsqUmp

I must really be missing something here.

Only that NFHS and ASA enforce/penalize illegal pitches differently.

My advice would be to take a little more time actually reading what you're responding to before telling others they don't know what they're talking about. Maybe you could use some of the time wasted on berating people who don't stick to a narrowly defined course of discussion that you deem suitable or thinking up catchy quips about "clones".

[EsqUmp]

It was rather clear that I was directly referring to ASA and NCAA. That was made known by using words like "ASA" and "NCAA." If it helps clear things up for future posts, I will label my posts with the rule code. It certainly wasn't my intent to cause confusion...

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by EsqUmp

It was rather clear that I was directly referring to ASA and NCAA. That was made known by using words like "ASA" and "NCAA." If it helps clear things up for future posts, I will label my posts with the rule code. It certainly wasn't my intent to cause confusion...

I think the confusion came from you quoting a person who said NFHS in his post and telling him he was wrong.

[x-tremeump]

Originally Posted by EsqUmp

IT'S NOT DEAD, as stated by Mike. It's not dead in ASA. It's not dead in NCAA. I must really be missing something here (maybe I am).

Illegal Pitch Effect: "If the batter hits the ball and reaches first base safely, and if all other runners have advanced at least one base on the batted ball, the illegal pitch is nullified." "Otherwise the manager has the option to take the result of the play or the illegal pitch is enforced by awarding a ball to the batter and advance all runners one base."

The play must be completed before the umpire calls "time" to address enforcement of an illegal pitch.

In this case, the batter did not safely reach first base. Therefore, the coach has an option to take the result of the play or enforcement of the illegal pitch (ball on batter and all runners get a base).

Additionally, "An umpire may not call time while any play is in progress" (except injured player needing immediate attention).

WHY IS THE BALL DEAD WHEN THE PLAY ISN'T OVER?

The code here that the nice gentleman is referencing is NCAA/ASA, not Federation. I do not follow NCAA so I have no coment on that .