CWS FL-AZ plate umpire

[CecilOne]

Originally Posted by Bandit

The play into third is not the secondary play for the plate umpire. It is the primary play/call that is the responsibility of the plate umpire. The pulled foot is a secondary play/call for the plate umpire. The call at first and a pulled foot is a "if" call for the plate umpire. "IF" they appeal, they will ask for his/her opinion/help.

True the plate umpire should trail the BR. But only to the point (normally the plate umpire will not even get to the running lane) in which that the R1 has approached (if passing...this would be considered possibly too late) second base on her way to third. At this point the plate umpire must adbandon the BR and be in position for the call at third.

This is the mechanic for both ASA and NCAA.

Let's not confuse chronology with responsibilities. I think Wade helped with different words.

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by Bandit

Let me see if i understand this.....runner on first, plate ump is to trail BR until he/she is confident of pulled or no pulled foot.

You do understand it.

AND THEN worry about the runner that had been on first and the subsiquent call at third when that runner is busting butt to go to third.

You got it. Other than misspelling subsequent twice (2 different ways even).

Why would a plate umpire want to be concerned about a "possible" appeal of a play at first and not be in position for his/her Primary responsibilty of the call at third?

Two possibilities ... a) because said umpire wants to work again, b) because the umpire has been to a clinic and knows their responsibilities on this play.

Why would a plate umpire be worried about a call that is NOT his/her primary responsibility?

I doubt PU was worried. PU was operating as told and taught though.

The pulled foot of a first base defensive player is not the primary call of the plate umpire.

Says who? You... vs NCAA mechanic manuals and clinics (among others)? I choose the latter - no offense intended.

[azbigdawg]

Originally Posted by Big Slick

At all NCAA championships, the game assignments are not a decision by a single individual; there is not "an assigner." The UIC makes a recommendation to the committee, who then has the final say.

I was surprised to see her back there also.. she DID have a tough two previous games....but she's there....I'm not....

[CecilOne]

Are we finished criticizing other officials on a public forum?

[flipper]

Originally Posted by CecilOne

Are we finished criticizing other officials on a public forum?

That's the rub isn't it? You can't criticize the decision to have an umpire work a game without criticizing that umpire indirectly.

When the Director of Championships for the NCAA publicly states that "we bring our best here.", what is she saying about the remainder of college officials? Of course, what else can she say? The truth? Many know better.

[azbigdawg]

Originally Posted by CecilOne

Are we finished criticizing other officials on a public forum?

I'm not seeing much criticism that's out of line.... we've all had rough games... and we've all been criticized/questioned