Why so slow to show the calls? Baylor/Missouri

[Rich Ives]

I'm pretty sure the ball/strike calls were verbalized promptly for those close enough but darn - to those of us at home WOW!. The ball was already back to the pitchers before we knew what the call was.

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by Rich Ives

I'm pretty sure the ball/strike calls were verbalized promptly for those close enough but darn - to those of us at home WOW!. The ball was already back to the pitchers before we knew what the call was.

What's your point?

[Rich Ives]

Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA

What's your point?

You're right. Sorry. Spectators have no right to know what the call was. Sorry I asked Mr Perfect.

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by Rich Ives

You're right. Sorry. Spectators have no right to know what the call was. Sorry I asked Mr Perfect.

Is that they way they do it on the baseball board?

It was a serious question. Why are you concerned with the delayed signal? Maybe you have a valid point. I don't know, that is why I'm asking.

Of course, the spectator IS given a signal, so it really isn't a matter of the spectator not having the right to know the call, is it?

[Rita C]

Originally Posted by Rich Ives

I'm pretty sure the ball/strike calls were verbalized promptly for those close enough but darn - to those of us at home WOW!. The ball was already back to the pitchers before we knew what the call was.

Rich, Softball umpires are supposed to verbalize both ball and strike while down. If it's a strike, they then come up to show the call.

I've also noticed that it's tough to hear the strike call on the TV.

Rita

[topper]

A few years ago, some on the staff asked us to try to avoid too much of a delay between the verbal and the signal. Not so much for the spectators, but the coaches. It can be hard for them to hear also, and some would start complaining before they found out they didn't have to. I haven't heard much about it since.

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by topper

A few years ago, some on the staff asked us to try to avoid too much of a delay between the verbal and the signal. Not so much for the spectators, but the coaches. It can be hard for them to hear also, and some would start complaining before they found out they didn't have to. I haven't heard much about it since.

Sort of makes sense and doesn't at the same time

[TwoBits]

Originally Posted by Rich Ives

I'm pretty sure the ball/strike calls were verbalized promptly for those close enough but darn - to those of us at home WOW!. The ball was already back to the pitchers before we knew what the call was.

Watching a Tim McClelland officiated MLB game must drive you crazy!

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by TwoBits

Watching a Tim McClelland officiated MLB game must drive you crazy!

Waiting for the pine tar to dry.

[Rich Ives]

Originally Posted by TwoBits

Watching a Tim McClelland officiated MLB game must drive you crazy!

Not just me - there are a lot of folks who cringe at it.

[Rich Ives]

Originally Posted by Rita C

Rich, Softball umpires are supposed to verbalize both ball and strike while down. If it's a strike, they then come up to show the call.

Rita

But why? What's the point (to borrow a phrase)?

[HugoTafurst]

Originally Posted by Rich Ives

But why? What's the point (to borrow a phrase)?

Why not?

[Gulf Coast Blue]

Originally Posted by HugoTafurst

Why not?

Please not another pissing match between BB and SB..............

They are different games played under different rules.

It is standard in NCAA or ASA Fast Pitch mechanics to verbalize the call and then mechanically make the call.......

It has been done that way.......forever.......

The speed that those calls are made are up to the individual umpire........

Rich.......I saw no issues in the speed of their calls........

I have issue with many volleyball, soccer, and basketball calls every year.......and I even officiate a couple.......but don't question those calls.

Why.....because I am another official.......

Joel

PS Hugo....sorry I piggy backed on your thread

[HugoTafurst]

Originally Posted by Gulf Coast Blue

Please not another pissing match between BB and SB..............


(snip)

PS Hugo....sorry I piggy backed on your thread

No problem..
Your answer reflected my thoughts when posting my why not question....

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by Rich Ives

But why? What's the point (to borrow a phrase)?

The verbal is to notify those participants in the general area of play of the call. It is made in a timely fashion.

Don't know of any umpire that doesn't offer a verbal "strike" and in most cases "ball" call that cannot be heard by everyone in the infield and dugout.

The signal is for the spectators and players not in the general vicinity of the play that do not need this information in a timely fashion to make an immediate subsequent decision.