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Old Mon Jan 17, 2011, 09:24pm
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If everybody in China jumped up at the same time would it affect the path of the Earth and cause it to collide with an astroid in 1500 years? Hey, it could happen!

Look, no law or BI or poly or psyche eval will prevent someone from doing something they intend or have a compulsion to do whatever it is. It will give non-thinking people a warm, fuzzy feeling, and occasionally will come across someone not smart enough to avoid detection, but will not prevent most of the trouble our "society" encounters.
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Old Tue Jan 18, 2011, 08:49am
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If everybody in China jumped up at the same time would it affect the path of the Earth and cause it to collide with an astroid in 1500 years? Hey, it could happen!

Look, no law or BI or poly or psyche eval will prevent someone from doing something they intend or have a compulsion to do whatever it is. It will give non-thinking people a warm, fuzzy feeling, and occasionally will come across someone not smart enough to avoid detection, but will not prevent most of the trouble our "society" encounters.

Same could be said about umpire testing.
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Old Tue Jan 18, 2011, 10:14am
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I have no problem with the background investigations. I just hope they don't find that I did steal that gum from Johnnie Rummel in the sixth grade!

The investigations are being done (IMO) for LIABILTY rather than SAFETY.
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Old Tue Jan 18, 2011, 10:57am
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I think this article is relevant in some ways to the discussion, at least in terms of adding some perspective.

Felon Protection - Wisconsin in favor of criminals in the work place | Reason | Find Articles at BNET
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If everybody in China jumped up at the same time would it affect the path of the Earth and cause it to collide with an astroid in 1500 years? Hey, it could happen!

I see you're aware of this burgeoning problem. Others can Google "anthropogenic global orbit change" to learn more. It doesn't involve jumping specifically, but the fact that the population imbalance between East and West is growing, constantly making the Eastern Hemisphere heavier, could well threaten mankind's future—and soon—unless governments take action.
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Old Tue Jan 18, 2011, 11:14am
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The Wisconsin Fair Employment Act makes it unlawful to hold a worker's or applicant's criminal record against him unless you're prepared to show in court that the record is "substantially" related to the employment.
I don't see why this is necessarily a bad thing.

If I were to get in trouble for, say, tax evasion, should this have an impact on my ability to work as an auto mechanic, or even an umpire?
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Old Tue Jan 18, 2011, 12:05pm
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I don't see why this is necessarily a bad thing.

If I were to get in trouble for, say, tax evasion, should this have an impact on my ability to work as an auto mechanic, or even an umpire?


Tax evasion? I would probably say no, it should not affect your right to work as a mechanic or umpire. And I know some umpires who in their late teens/early twenties committed serious crimes (a couple did some time) but have for decades since been productive, law-abiding citizens. So I'd reserve judgment even for a guy who 30 years ago committed a holdup.

But a guy who rapes and murders a 9-year-old girl is different. Such a crime is not just a mistake, or bad judgment, or youthful stupidity. There's strong evidence to the effect that such people are never "cured." Government should not force anyone to hire such a person. And I'm not hiring him ever, under any circumstances, even to shovel s**t.
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Old Tue Jan 18, 2011, 12:40pm
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But a guy who rapes and murders a 9-year-old girl is different. Such a crime is not just a mistake, or bad judgment, or youthful stupidity. There's strong evidence to the effect that such people are never "cured."
And for the 14 yo boy caught fooling around with a 13 yo girl? That is the problem with the stupid law. Morons enact crap without thinking and many fall in love with the politically influential "mandatory" effects of a law and all of a sudden you are committing children to an RSO for something complete absurd.

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Government should not force anyone to hire such a person. And I'm not hiring him ever, under any circumstances, even to shovel s**t.
I agree, but apparently the courts believe otherwise.
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Old Tue Jan 18, 2011, 03:25pm
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I just hope they don't find that I did steal that gum from Johnnie Rummel in the sixth grade!
Better check. That could already be posted on Johnnie's Facebook homepage.
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