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1. BU was off the left shoulder or so of the SS. He & she may have stepped in a couple of paces towards first.
2. I don't recall PU trailing BR 3. One crew was both male the other crew was female I agree with "Irish" make the call and make possible correction later. With no call I see it could create alot of confusion if the BR just continues to 2nd and defense attempts 2nd play on BR while oringinal baserunner scores. In any event - thanks for your input and I hope to call NCAA games someday. |
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I know that Mike disagrees with me, but I like this. Most of the partners that I work with expect this and do not release to the play at third until they have observed the "action" at first base.
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And what happens if the PU doesn't see it? Maybe he takes a shot with a bat or a catcher steps and blocks him out of the play? And giving priority to a play at 1B over being in position for a play at 3B? I don't think so. It is presumptive and IMO gives an umpire an out for developing a bad habit. I believe this mechanic reverses the priority an umpire should employ. Instead of looking for possibly unseen negatives on a play, the umpire should worry about the s/he DOES see/hear and make the call based on the information available.
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So, regardless of which we believe is better, in NCAA ask first, elsewhere call first.
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In NCAA it is an option to ask first.
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It makes it all the more important to know where you are calling and to have a thourough pre-game. I am used to that mechanic and like it, but would be very careful using it unless pre-gamed and understood by my partner... |
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Exactly. One that I choose not to use. Even when everything goes as designed it has an awkward feel to it and, IMO, doesn't do much for instilling confidence in the crew.
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OK, just that Andy's manual quote does not read very optional.
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As I don't have my manual with me at work, today, I cannot refute this. And I certainly cannot quote the manual, little less page 109 word for word to support what I previously said. However, it has been taught as a viable option. (Something to not slow down the flow of the game....etc.)
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1) BU already has a very good angle on this play at C, and likely is moving only to gain distance, and even then, only if he can stay out of the play (grounder to the left side could be F6). 2) Only if it was his last game ever or he wanted it to be. HUGE no-no. 3) ??
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