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Old Mon Oct 25, 2010, 04:03pm
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1 batter awarded first base on HBP twice, on consecutive pitches

This was only one of the strange things in 1 of my 5 games Saturday.

Batting order is 8, 1, 7. 8 singles. 7 comes to the plate and is HBP. She goes to first, Coach appeals BOO, we pull her off the base, call 1 out, and 7 back to the plate, whereupon she gets nailed by the first pitch, in about the same spot.

Same game - pitcher is removed from the game by coach/dad after 2 or 3 batters. She is sent to first, and suddenly coach is directing traffic.. apparently this particular pitching change - in the first inning - required about 7 people to change positions. While he's doing this, 3BC suggests that "looks like everyone's switching - you wanna coach 3rd and I'll umpire? Anyway, pitcher throws her last pitch and we realize there's no first baseman. I call time and start walking forward and see that F3 left through the OTHER team's dugout and was leaving the field (these are 14 year olds). Next thing, I hear Team Mom slash pitcher's mom slash coach's wife cursing the coach/dad loudly. Before I have a chance to get over and eject, she's leaving on her own. 10 seconds later coach leaves too, leaving us all just staring at each other.

Game also had an IFF triple play. Caught practically on 2nd base - R2 had run halfway to third. I call the 2nd out, 1BC tells R3 she's out, and she leaves the field and enters the dugout. 3 outs.
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Old Mon Oct 25, 2010, 08:37pm
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a polite question

I also officiate fastpitch softball. I have been doing it for years. I work USSSA, ASA, NCAA and Fed. Under what rule set were you working?

Where in whatever rulebook you're using in this game does it give any umpire the authority to eject a fan? You can get the TD to deal with a fan but I'm not sure that any umpire has the authority to eject a fan. Could you quote the rule please?
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Old Mon Oct 25, 2010, 09:56pm
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I think the mom was in the dugout as a "coach." The shorthand here works for a few sentences, but in a complete post is hard to follow.
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Old Mon Oct 25, 2010, 10:54pm
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Team Mom ???

"Team Mom Before I have a chance to get over and eject, she's leaving on her own"

"mbcrowder". Hmmmmmm. Would like to have seen this one.
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Old Mon Oct 25, 2010, 11:02pm
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The same batter getting hit twice is one of those quirky and cool things will make for a good "war story" down the road. And from what I know of mbcrowder (through his posts) I'm willing to bet he knows the rules about ejecting fans- which leads me to believe that "team mom" was dugout personel.

But I'm still wondering why you called time when "the pitcher threw her last (warm-up?) pitch". Was the ball live?
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Old Tue Oct 26, 2010, 10:24am
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To answer the questions, yes - Team Mom was dugout personnel, normally used to help dress catchers and make sure the on deck and in the hole batters know to be ready. I'm not ejecting a fan - ever. Fans belong to whoever is in charge of the fields.

I called time because it was ABOUT to become live and no one else noticed we were missing a player. Perhaps the wrong word as technically you are right, the ball wasn't live yet.
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Old Tue Oct 26, 2010, 10:31am
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Appreciated a 14&U shortstop this weekend for an intelligent conversation about INT when she thought she was hindered and I did not. She did have to throw over a runner to 1st, and we also discussed INT difference on a throw vs. batted ball. No arguing, just conversation, best of all no interrupt from a coach.
Later on, she said "good call" after a missed tag play by F4.

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That way offset the coach who claimed we can't watch a runner's feet while seeing a bobble by a fielder.
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