Why do some make it such a BIG deal?

[Bandit]

[QUOTE=HugoTafurst;694906].....Why make a big deal about it?
This particualr umpire gives you an order (that may be picky or may not, but he is correct), so just do it and shut up...

A) Might have been the way he gave the "order" ?????
B) Never said we did'nt do it.
C) I don't appreciate beng told to "shut up" by anyone.

D) One has to wonder if your demeaner is one of "control"? Perhaps you walk onto the field with the attitude of "I am god the umpire, I shall run this game. You, coach, should feel special that I let you stay" ?. Your response here opens the possibility of that thought process.

Good umpires "manage" a game. They don't "run" the game

[Dakota]

Originally Posted by Bandit

...Good umpires...

...know the rules regarding dugout conduct. Thanks for the pointers. It means so much coming from someone as knowledgeable as you.

[Bandit]

Overzealous, Absolutley

Previous actions...Nothing, quiet game. Nothing had even been said about the other teams pitcher leaping on her change-up EVERY time. Have learned that really doesn't get you anywhere. So why worry about it. Like it's been said so many times here on the forum. Umpires are not there to "teach" the coaches and the umpires are not ther to "coach" the players. So I think it's only fair that coaches not "teach" the umpires. When I umpire, I umpire. When I'm at the field with my daughter. I'm a father. I don't like it when I umpire and fans try to teach me so when a fan I don't teach them.

Yes I am aware of the # of coaches on the field. But again any ruling works against us. Why make a problem. The problems will find themselves quick enough.

This particular coach...because of the field design and the dugout design...was in no way a part of the playing field. Again I undewrstand the method of warning. But you cannot dispute that many times umpires create their own headaches.

A statment was made...If I let you stand out there and the ball hits you, it's my fault

How is this YOUR fault in any way shape or form. I was comparing the state having put speeding signs up to state a rule. A rule that I was well aware of. Yet when I called to tell them it was their fault I was speeding I was given no mercy...still had to pay the ticket. Is the writer stating that if we don't tell the coach of a rule...which he or she is breaking....we, the umpire, are to take that into consideration when enforcing the rule? We let it happen so don't enforce?

[MD Longhorn]

Still not getting your analogy. I'm really not understanding why you feel that the umpire needs to decide that some rules don't apply because "any ruling works against us" That really has nothing to do with anything, and as an umpire you should know that.

Let me ask it this way. Is your team getting an advantage by having the coach standing where he was?

If yes - then allowing him to be there is disadvantaging the other team.
If no - then why would it bother you or him to be told to comply with the rule?

As umpires, we aren't there to decide which rules to enforce. We are there to enforce the rules. While I disapprove of the manner in which this umpire enforced this rule, he was absolutely right in enforcing it.

[SC Ump]

Originally Posted by Bandit

COACH !!!! BOTH FEET ON THE CEMENT OR YOU VISIT THE PARKING LOT !!!

If I were a coach in that situation, I would have either step onto the cement and then stood on one foot, or layed on my belly in the dirt with my body in live ball area and both my feet on the cement.

With an ump like this I would not want to be on the field anyway and would just as soon he has to put in the extra effort of having to write up the ejection report and being ridiculed by his association for his overzealous way of handling what he thought was an issue.