You had to have been there - Story #2

[NCASAUmp]

Originally Posted by mbcrowder

Are you kidding? She threw her bat and her helmet. Night night.

Well, it depends on how she "threw" her bat and helmet. If she chucked it, that's one thing. But "throwing" a bat or helmet could mean anything from letting it drop with a little bit of "assistance" to chucking it a great distance or something in between.

If the player does something that can endanger others or something that's out of control, then I'll pitch 'em. If there was nothing dangerous about it or out of control, the most they'd probably get is a warning.

He saw it, we didn't.

[Skahtboi]

Originally Posted by NCASAUmp

Well, it depends on how she "threw" her bat and helmet. If she chucked it, that's one thing. But "throwing" a bat or helmet could mean anything from letting it drop with a little bit of "assistance" to chucking it a great distance or something in between.

If the player does something that can endanger others or something that's out of control, then I'll pitch 'em. If there was nothing dangerous about it or out of control, the most they'd probably get is a warning.

He saw it, we didn't.

True. And based on the "player was angry" part that preceded the helmet tossing and bat throwing, one is led to assume that in this case, the throwing was of a nature that was both out of control and did endanger others.

You're are right, he did see. We didn't. But considering the timbre of the post, do you really feel like this is a HTBT situation?

[NCASAUmp]

Originally Posted by Skahtboi

True. And based on the "player was angry" part that preceded the helmet tossing and bat throwing, one is led to assume that in this case, the throwing was of a nature that was both out of control and did endanger others.

You're are right, he did see. We didn't. But considering the timbre of the post, do you really feel like this is a HTBT situation?

Of course I don't, but I don't want others to think that any kind of "throw" of equipment in the dugout is an automatic toss. Nor did I want to engage in the habit of second-guessing our fellow blues out there when we didn't see what happened.

I was also confusing this with the other post, which specified that it was a 10U game. This story comes from a 14U game. They have a bit more, shall we say... "oomf" behind the throwing of equipment. I was thinking, "how much force can a 10U kid generate in an instructional game?!"

[Skahtboi]

Originally Posted by NCASAUmp

Of course I don't, but I don't want others to think that any kind of "throw" of equipment in the dugout is an automatic toss.

In spirit, my friend, I agree with you. But I was strictly addressing the OP. Hopefully as a learning tool for jcmblue and others who may be reading these posts in hopes of gleaning some information that they can use in the future.

[NCASAUmp]

Originally Posted by Skahtboi

In spirit, my friend, I agree with you. But I was strictly addressing the OP. Hopefully as a learning tool for jcmblue and others who may be reading these posts in hopes of gleaning some information that they can use in the future.

No argument here, hombre. No argument here.

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by NCASAUmp

He saw it, we didn't.

I will give you that blue was the man on the spot, and not us... but given that he's posted about 8 other reasons to automatically announce that the player or coach has ejected themselves ... and failed to do so on every count, I don't believe we can fairly judge that since blue didn't toss, that he was correct in the not-tossing.

I think that given an angry player AND a helmet AND a bat, we can safely assume this should have been ejection. I can't really see a whole lot of leniency on throwing a bat - that's almost always going to be a safety issue.

[KJUmp]

Originally Posted by mbcrowder

i will give you that blue was the man on the spot, and not us... But given that he's posted about 8 other reasons to automatically announce that the player or coach has ejected themselves ... And failed to do so on every count, i don't believe we can fairly judge that since blue didn't toss, that he was correct in the not-tossing.

I think that given an angry player and a helmet and a bat, after a called 3rd strike (added by kj) we can safely assume this should have been ejection. I can't really see a whole lot of leniency on throwing a bat - that's almost always going to be a safety issue.

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