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Old Mon Sep 27, 2010, 08:54am
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I know you said you know what you should have done in this case, but for the edification of others, let's review:

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14U
Game 2: I just called a knee high 3rd strike and 3rd out a batter in a 0-0 game in the 4th inning with bases loaded. . . I hear some angry parent remarks coming from the hill where the parents were. . .the player is not happy and tosses her helmut and throws her bat after she left the field of play. NO BIGGIE. . .happens often enough.
At this point, if you saw it, heard it, and were aware of it, she should have been ejected. UC. Pretty simple.

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That kid happened to be the catcher in the bottom 1/2.
Shouldn't have been. See previous comment.

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SITUATION: R1 on 3B. . .sharp line drive to the 3B who throws ball home. . .Catcher misses the ball on what would have been a close play. . .But the catcher decides that she should lower her shoulder, step into the R1, kinda check her and wrap her arm around R1's waist instead of going after the ball. . .anyway, R1 finally touches home. Opposing coach doesnt way anything and I didnt know that R1 was pretty bruised up on the play until after the next inning's incident.
I don't care who you are, or if you just started umpiring this month. I don't care if this is fall league, spring league, winter league, summer league, whathehell league; there is no reason for this player to be standing on the field after this. None. She is now posing a threat to others. You are asking for injury by leaving her in the game.

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NEXT INNING. . .exact same situation, but this time the relay throw from 3B was spot on AND THE RUNNER HELD UP 5 FEET before the plate. HOWEVER, the catcher in her infinite wisdom, ran up to her and literally shoved her glove in the R1's chest and knocked her back a bit. . .It was a real aggressive play to which yelled "KNOCK IT OFF"- to the kid, then I called time and called for the her coach while the opposing coach was yelling about her conduct.
That is because, for some reason, she is still on the field playing the game. She is starting to feel invincible. She is, after all, 14. She should be, at the very least, on the bench. In an ideal world, though, she should be well on her way home with mommy and daddy at this point.

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This kid was unreal. . .I was talking to the coach about the two plays and what I saw. . .AND THE KID KEPT TALKING BACK AT ME. . .telling me that she didnt do it, that I was not right, that I was picking on her. . . I looked at her first and said, DONT YOU REALIZE I AM TRYING TO HELP YOU BY TALKING TO YOUR COACH, CAN YOU PLEASE JUST LISTEN. . .to which she kept talking back at me.
Of course she did. She is 14. I work with them every day. If you set the boundaries up front, they tend to adapt to them better. In this case, she should have been tossed at the very first infraction. She would remember that next game, or at least the next time she saw you. Then you probably would have seen an entirely different kid.

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I looked at the coach and said "if she keeps on doing this, I would need to eject BOTH OF YOU, but since this is instructional, let me try to help you by telling you what she did wrong and that if this was the regular season I would have ejected her immediately". . . Well, the kid decided she had enough of me and took herself out of the field - I did not eject anyone.
Too bad. You let a perfectly good "teaching moment" slip by!

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THIS STORY ISNT OVER QUITE YET. . . .
Why am I not surprised?

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Now, that team is back at the plate. . .Their teammate is on 3B and attempts to steal home on a wild pitch. The ball literally bounces off the backstop and rolls right the catcher who blocks the plate perfectly, puts the ball on the ground and the R1 slides into the tag. . . IMMEDAITELY I HEAR A LOUD VOICE "Why isnt that play aggressive". . NOW, THERE WAS ANOTHER KID GETTING INVOLVED STANDING NEXT TO THE CATCHER. I looked at the two of them, turned to the coach and said to the coach, "if I hear their mouths, they are BOTH gone and you'd have to go too". . .to which one of the kids says "But I am not on the field, you shouldnt be listening to what I am saying". . .To which I said back, IF YOU WANT TO LEAVE EARLY, JUST SAY ONE MORE WORD AND I WILL EJECT YOU, AND YOU AND YOUR COACH. . . .They lost 2-1. . . .
Let me say this at this point. If you want to warn, that is fine. But do it once. Only once. Don't repeat it over and over, hoping that someone will catch on. Then it becomes nothing more than an empty threat, and everyone involved knows it. It is tough to pull the trigger on someone, I know. That it why many of us refer to this as the persons involved "ejected themselves." This young lady had asked you repeatedly to eject her, and you failed to do so. At the end, she was not only asking you to eject her, she was screaming at you to eject her, daring you to eject her. Again, you did nothing. So, regardless of the score here, both teams, and the officials, lost.
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