NCAA SUIP rumor

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by Dakota

As someone watching this from outside, this seems to be the crux of the issue that led to the departure of the three in the first place. If I was representing ASA in these talks, that is the first issue I would insist on being answered by the NCAA, and answered honestly. The NCAA's response would go a long way (again, if I was representing ASA) in determining if I even wanted to step into this mess.

The excuse given me by a coach when NCAA decided to develop their own brand was that they did not want ASA on the field as, according to them, it gave the impression the NCAA was using umpires who just chase little girls around the field.

Hey, not my explanation, but is sounds a lot like the same crap I use to hear from a certain Texan baseball umpire, Carl C.

However, I would venture to say that this would be more of an agreement to provide the training, not take over as an official interpreter for the NCAA. I would bet they keep such a position in house.

[topper]

Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA

The excuse given me by a coach when NCAA decided to develop their own brand was that they did not want ASA on the field as, according to them, it gave the impression the NCAA was using umpires who just chase little girls around the field.

We all know what comes from listening to coaches.

IF, and that's a big IF, this move was being seriously considered, ASA would have to assume the role of contactor to the NCAA Softball Committee as opposed to running their own organization arbitrarily. The committee has a record of making changes to their game far more often than ASA does. It would be interesting to see how ASA handles this much fluidity. Although it could be argued that the former staff's knee-jerk reactions to the committee's every whim created some of the issues that led to their dismissal.

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by topper

We all know what comes from listening to coaches.

IF, and that's a big IF, this move was being seriously considered, ASA would have to assume the role of contactor to the NCAA Softball Committee as opposed to running their own organization arbitrarily. The committee has a record of making changes to their game far more often than ASA does. It would be interesting to see how ASA handles this much fluidity. Although it could be argued that the former staff's knee-jerk reactions to the committee's every whim created some of the issues that led to their dismissal.

That is the difference between a democratic (probably not the proper label, but gets the point across) system and a dictatorship.

When it comes to rules, the process doesn't need to be, but can be difficult to navigate since any change can affect multiple games and scenarios whereas the NCAA only has to deal with a single game at a single level in a closed shop.

I would assume the NCAA rules would be handled the same as the modified or 16" or masters/seniors game, as exceptions to some rules with some specific special rules for their game only.

However, I don't see this as a total merger, just one that may allow the ASA to complement the NCAA umpire program, more administrative as opposed to legislative.

BTW, I have heard from a separate source that pretty much confirms what Ronald has indicated as to the level of those who were discussing this issue.

[topper]

Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA

However, I don't see this as a total merger, just one that may allow the ASA to complement the NCAA umpire program, more administrative as opposed to legislative.

I doubt the NCAA Softball Committee is looking to ASA for rules making assistance. The SUIP existed primarily for one reason; to select officials for the postseason. The training and guidance they provided umpires was a means to that end. I assume that is what would be asked of ASA as well.

All criticism of ASA aside, I am trying to understand how it would complement the program.

[Skahtboi]

Originally Posted by topper

All criticism of ASA aside, I am trying to understand how it would complement the program.

As am I.

[Skahtboi]

The SUIP Coordinator's position is listed as a "want ad" on the SUIP site. If any of you are interested, here is the job posting:

SUIP National Coordinator Position

So, it would seem that the NCAA is planning on staying autonomous from any other organization.

[KJUmp]

Originally Posted by Skahtboi

The SUIP Coordinator's position is listed as a "want ad" on the SUIP site. If any of you are interested, here is the job posting:

SUIP National Coordinator Position

So, it would seem that the NCAA is planning on staying autonomous from any other organization.

I wonder if that job description has changed from when Kathy Straham was hired?