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Occupying the same base
Okay, let me toss this one out there. This one may be simple, but there's a twist I'm not 100% certain of.
ASA Rules, but interested if there are any rulesets with variations on this sitch. R1 on 2B, R2 on 1B, no outs. B3 hits a long fly ball to the right field. R1 takes off on the hit. R2 initially stays, but leaves the base two steps before the ball is caught. R1 makes it just shy of 3B, realizes the ball is caught and heads back. R2 is already standing on 2B when R1 returns. Both are standing on the base. Defense tags R2, then R1. What do you do?
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Ball was caught, so R1 was not force to vacate second base. R2 is out regardless of who is tagged first. Had the ball been not caught in the outfield, then R1 would be out since she has been forced off second base.
I'm not sure if the "twist" you are referring to is R2 leaving too soon or not. I would not interpret the defensive team's actions as an appeal of R2 leaving too soon.
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It is R1's base......since the ball was caught and they went back because they knew they had to tag and then knew they did not have time. R2 was out--base coaches were bad? lol
What call GOT made?
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The call that WAS made was clearly the wrong call, though. That much was certain. ![]()
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There's really no twist here at all. Leaving a base early is a nothing unless someone appeals it. At this point in the play, all you have is 2 runners on a base - which is handled rather easily.
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Well, here's the twist that comes to mind, and I might be over-thinking it...
An umpire does not want to tip their hand on an appeal play, but two runners occupying the same base is not an appeal play. We also can't honor "accidental appeals," which means we have to know WHY the defense is tagging the runner. So what do we say when they make the tag? Sure, we can call the out, but if the OC asks you why, which reason do you give him/her? Secondly, does R2 legally occupy 2B?
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