Taping over the knob (ASA)

[Skahtboi]

Originally Posted by shagpal

it's possible that a player innocently taped up a loose knob thinking it's fine to do so. I think they make those rules to limit legal liability of us umpires, assuming, tape = hiding something underneath. even if we ask players to remove the original manufacturers grip, which a good bat doctor would put back undetectable, do most umpires really know what is underneath? most doctoring occurs thru the endcap anyways.

umpiring is always done with judgment, not void of it. why don't you ask questions? last year, knobcuffs where illegal. this year, it's all good. someone asked some questions, hence the change.

Obviously you missed the entire gist of my comment. I did not say "don't ask questions," or "I never ask any questions."

But...that's okay that you didn't get it.

[shagpal]

what I missed, was why you said, "I rarely ask myself any such question about any aspect of the game". maybe I'm wrong, but that seems robotic to take rules at face value. I think asking and questioning is healthy for the game. it's a dynamic game that keeps changing.

Originally Posted by Skahtboi

Obviously you missed the entire gist of my comment. I did not say "don't ask questions," or "I never ask any questions."

But...that's okay that you didn't get it.

[NCASAUmp]

Originally Posted by shagpal

what I missed, was why you said, "I rarely ask myself any such question about any aspect of the game". maybe I'm wrong, but that seems robotic to take rules at face value. I think asking and questioning is healthy for the game. it's a dynamic game that keeps changing.

But it should not change from game to game without it being in writing beforehand.

ASA edits the rules. We don't. If you want a rule change, propose it later this fall or in your local leagues. Until then, stick with the rules AS WRITTEN, or you'll end up floating up $h1t creek without a paddle.

[shagpal]

the rules are the rules. some umpires don't even check bats.

what part of the rule are you suggesting is being changed by "me", as in, if "I" want to change the rules? I mentioned questioning rules is healthy, enforcing rules is required.

have you had your coffee today?

Originally Posted by NCASAUmp

But it should not change from game to game without it being in writing beforehand.

ASA edits the rules. We don't. If you want a rule change, propose it later this fall or in your local leagues. Until then, stick with the rules AS WRITTEN, or you'll end up floating up $h1t creek without a paddle.

[NCASAUmp]

Originally Posted by shagpal

the rules are the rules. some umpires don't even check bats.

what part of the rule are you suggesting is being changed by "me", as in, if "I" want to change the rules? I mentioned questioning rules is healthy, enforcing rules is required.

have you had your coffee today?

Oh, I don't know... Perhaps this portion:

Originally Posted by shagpal

what I missed, was why you said, "I rarely ask myself any such question about any aspect of the game". maybe I'm wrong, but that seems robotic to take rules at face value. I think asking and questioning is healthy for the game. it's a dynamic game that keeps changing.

Seems to imply that you're willing to take a few more liberties than you should. Maybe I'm wrong, but you're new here, so expect a lack of trust from us until we get to know you.

[shagpal]

that seems to be your problem, not mine. this is a forum, not a ball field.
on a ball field, the one to distrust is the partner that would throw another fellow umpire under the bus. that's who I distrust.

Originally Posted by NCASAUmp

Oh, I don't know... Perhaps this portion:


Seems to imply that you're willing to take a few more liberties than you should. Maybe I'm wrong, but you're new here, so expect a lack of trust from us until we get to know you.

[SethPDX]

Originally Posted by shagpal

that seems to be your problem, not mine. this is a forum, not a ball field.
on a ball field, the one to distrust is the partner that would throw another fellow umpire under the bus. that's who I distrust.

This is the internet, not the field. Anyone can come here and say whatever so new posters have to build credibility. If they really know about umpiring it will eventually show.