the hijacked portion of overrunning 1B and missing the base...

[AtlUmpSteve]

Originally Posted by NCASAUmp

Can you tell me where it says that a dead ball appeal is not allowed on the BR missing 1B? The likelihood of this happening during a game situation is EXTREMELY unlikely, I know, but I don't see where it says that it's not allowed. Personally, if there's a potential appeal, I'll let it play out and not call "time."

Cold and free.

If that's not available, then Leinenkugel's.

To those unclear, we are talking ASA slow pitch mechanics only, here.

By changing your standard calling of "time" where there is no apparent play available, wouldn't you be tipping off the defense that you know of an appeal play that can be made? We aren't supposed to do that; consider the example of a missed tag and missed plate, where we do make a "safe" ruling (except NCAA, mind you) solely to avoid showing a variation that would tip one side or the other.

As a UIC or evaluator, I would disagree with your variation. Certainly, you wouldn't rush to call time to protect the violating runner. Perhaps a slight hesitation to make sure you aren't taking away a play they intend to make. But, if not apparent, you need to call time. And, then, having called time, you must allow runners to complete running responsibilities (returning to a base, retracing steps if desired, etc.) before you can honor a dead ball appeal. So that would result (in most cases) in the runner returning and touching the previously missed first base. A dead ball appeal is now simply too late, the runner is standing on the base.

Note that the NFHS rule quoted in the other thread clarifies what ASA leaves unsaid "even if she is standing on another base." Point being, no violation any more, if now standing on that base.