Obstruction Call- LA Dodgers game

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by Dholloway1962

To me, looks like the fielder deliberately scissor locked Cabrera's leg to try to prevent him from getting back to 3B

Well, he did lock up his leg, but think about it. How do you react when someone kicks you between the legs? I don't know about you, but even as a kid, I clamp my legs together.

[Dholloway1962]

Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA

Well, he did lock up his leg, but think about it. How do you react when someone kicks you between the legs? I don't know about you, but even as a kid, I clamp my legs together.

That made me laugh!!!!!

[NCASAUmp]

Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA

Well, he did lock up his leg, but think about it. How do you react when someone kicks you between the legs? I don't know about you, but even as a kid, I clamp my legs together.

It's called a cup!

[steveshane67]

Originally Posted by jmkupka

wow... completely contradicts ASA. I was fired up when I saw that call. Guess I'm wrong.

I think you mean ASA completely contradicts OBR. ASA is based off of baseball and OBR and made changes they thought best suited softball.

[steveshane67]

Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA

Okay, let me rile a few people

Wrong call. The runner was NOT attempting to reach 3B.

There runner clearly taunted the catcher and, IMO, with full intent to interfere with the play blocked the ball with his leg/hip and, in doing so, initiated contact with the defender who was clearly attempting to stay out of the runner's path.

BTW, I would have pointed with my left. From the OF, I'll be this looked like an ejection or the umpire asking the PU for help.

And I don't care what game it is!

I dont know if that was sarcasm or not but in baseball runners are taught then when you are in a run down, TO MAKE CONTACT WITH THE FIELDERS, bc it is INT. this happens probably about once a month in MLB, and obviously happens much much more often in lower levels of play.

[jmkupka]

Originally Posted by steveshane67

I dont know if that was sarcasm or not but in baseball runners are taught then when you are in a run down, TO MAKE CONTACT WITH THE FIELDERS, bc it is INT. this happens probably about once a month in MLB, and obviously happens much much more often in lower levels of play.

You did intend to say "OBS", right?

[AtlUmpSteve]

Originally Posted by jmkupka

You did intend to say "OBS", right?

The rule may be OBS, but the coaches teach them it is INT.

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by jmkupka

You did intend to say "OBS", right?

I find it easier to remember that in baseball, OBS is a form of INT.

[CecilOne]

Originally Posted by steveshane67

I think you mean ASA completely contradicts OBR. ASA is based off of baseball and OBR and made changes they thought best suited softball.

It's a SOFTBALL forum.

[Tru_in_Blu]

Originally Posted by CecilOne

It's a SOFTBALL forum.

Thanx, I was beginning to think it was a beer forum.

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by steveshane67

I think you mean ASA completely contradicts OBR. ASA is based off of baseball and OBR and made changes they thought best suited softball.

Maybe, maybe not. Softball more resembles rounders than baseball and that is where both games originated.

[Dakota]

Originally Posted by Tru_in_Blu

Thanx, I was beginning to think it was a beer forum.

Can't it be both?

[greymule]

From Wiki, for what it's worth:

The first version of softball was invented in Chicago, Illinois, on Thanksgiving Day, 1887 by George Hancock and Bakir Dzananovic as a winter version of baseball. It was intended to be a way for baseball players to keep in practice during the winter. At the time, the sport was called "Indoor Baseball."

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by greymule

From Wiki, for what it's worth:

The first version of softball was invented in Chicago, Illinois, on Thanksgiving Day, 1887 by George Hancock and Bakir Dzananovic as a winter version of baseball. It was intended to be a way for baseball players to keep in practice during the winter. At the time, the sport was called "Indoor Baseball."

And that is where the reference to baseball ended. But, then again, I think your source is suspect.

Hancock, a reporter, was noted to have instituted rules for his game. Obviously there is a similarity to baseball, which at that time was still in it's infancy, but no differently than Gaelic or Australian Rules football is to soccer though they are different games.

[steveshane67]

Originally Posted by greymule

From Wiki, for what it's worth:

The first version of softball was invented in Chicago, Illinois, on Thanksgiving Day, 1887 by George Hancock and Bakir Dzananovic as a winter version of baseball. It was intended to be a way for baseball players to keep in practice during the winter. At the time, the sport was called "Indoor Baseball."

Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA

And that is where the reference to baseball ended. But, then again, I think your source is suspect.

Hancock, a reporter, was noted to have instituted rules for his game. Obviously there is a similarity to baseball, which at that time was still in it's infancy, but no differently than Gaelic or Australian Rules football is to soccer though they are different games.

with all due respect to both of you, i think you both are completely missing my point. while i know nothing of the history of softball, i have a hard time believing that softball is not based off of baseball. There are probably 10,000 similarities in the ASA rule book and OBR rule book, do you really think this is a coincidence?

ASA est 1933
USSSA est 1968
NSA est 1982

National League est 1876
American League est 1901