New rules learned in fall ball

[3afan]

I learned 2 things in an ASA 12U this weekend in North Texas:

1 - on a walk all forced runners cannot deviate more the 3' from a direct line to the base they are entitled to else they should be called out for "running out of the baseline"

2 - after a pitch has been thrown the umpire cannot correct the count on the batter, the last count "announced" must stand

I kid you not!

Originally Posted by 3afan

I learned 2 things in an ASA 12U this weekend in North Texas:

1 - on a walk all forced runners cannot deviate more the 3' from a direct line to the base they are entitled to else they should be called out for "running out of the baseline"

2 - after a pitch has been thrown the umpire cannot correct the count on the batter, the last count "announced" must stand

I kid you not!

Wow, sounds like you just left the twilight zone. #1 obviously was uttered by a very anal retentative coach. #2 must have been uttered by some ucking fidiot of a coach who likes to stir things up. Of course, that all could have been the same coach.

[Tru_in_Blu]

Originally Posted by Ref Ump Welsch

Wow, sounds like you just left the twilight zone. #1 obviously was uttered by a very anal retentative coach. #2 must have been uttered by some ucking fidiot of a coach who likes to stir things up. Of course, that all could have been the same coach.

Brent, when you're engaged in a correctative task, would you flag "preventative" as unsuititable?

[okla21fan]

Pitcher licks their fingers on the pitching hand, and wipes them off on her uniform shirt near the left shoulder prior to holding the ball. Next pitch, pitcher does the same thing. Offensive coach from the dugout: "She can't wipe her fingers off in the same spot....thats illegal!"

[Skahtboi]

Originally Posted by okla21fan

Pitcher licks their fingers on the pitching hand, and wipes them off on her uniform shirt near the left shoulder prior to holding the ball. Next pitch, pitcher does the same thing. Offensive coach from the dugout: "She can't wipe her fingers off in the same spot....thats illegal!"

You could have had way too much fun with that one. Looked at him said, "coach, when was the last time you read a rule book? They dropped that rule from the books, jeez, what was it, 10, mebbe 12 years ago." Then just wait for the reaction!

Or, you could have gone with, "Coach, that wasn't the same spot. She was actually about two millimeters in front of the previous spot."

[youngump]

7th grade game last night. Second pitcher for H is wearing a school sweatshirt over her uniform that's some kind of neonish green -- not close enough to the ball to really be a problem for somebody throwing as slow as she was.
She pitches for an inning and a half and then gets replaced with pitcher number three. Next inning pitcher three gets pulled for pitcher 4. Next inning before the inning starts V coach wanders up to me.
C: See that girl out at 3b. She was pitching a couple of innings ago and that sweatshirt is kind of the color of the ball and my players were having trouble picking it up.
Me: Okay. I guess it is kind of close.
C: Yeah, they were having trouble picking up the ball. And it's really not her uniform.
Me: Okay, well if they decide to have her pitch again, come remind me and I'll see if it's a problem.

Coach wanders off.

Not sure what she wanted me to do at that point.
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[bkbjones]

Originally Posted by youngump

7th grade game last night. Second pitcher for H is wearing a school sweatshirt over her uniform that's some kind of neonish green -- not close enough to the ball to really be a problem for somebody throwing as slow as she was.
She pitches for an inning and a half and then gets replaced with pitcher number three. Next inning pitcher three gets pulled for pitcher 4. Next inning before the inning starts V coach wanders up to me.
C: See that girl out at 3b. She was pitching a couple of innings ago and that sweatshirt is kind of the color of the ball and my players were having trouble picking it up.
Me: Okay. I guess it is kind of close.
C: Yeah, they were having trouble picking up the ball. And it's really not her uniform.
Me: Okay, well if they decide to have her pitch again, come remind me and I'll see if it's a problem.

Coach wanders off.

Not sure what she wanted me to do at that point.

If it is the "H" pitcher I am thinking of, they didn't have any trouble picking up the ball on any of the four pitches each batter saw.

[Skahtboi]

Originally Posted by 3afan

I learned 2 things in an ASA 12U this weekend in North Texas:

1 - on a walk all forced runners cannot deviate more the 3' from a direct line to the base they are entitled to else they should be called out for "running out of the baseline"

2 - after a pitch has been thrown the umpire cannot correct the count on the batter, the last count "announced" must stand

I kid you not!

Yeah...I would believe that for a 12U coach. They have been around just long enough to pick up enough information to be dangerous to themselves!

[celebur]

Originally Posted by 3afan

2 - after a pitch has been thrown the umpire cannot correct the count on the batter, the last count "announced" must stand

I hope you obliged that coach. . .by announcing the count as 0-2 after the first pitch to each batter.

[3afan]

Originally Posted by celebur

I hope you obliged that coach. . .by announcing the count as 0-2 after the first pitch to each batter.

didnt think of that!

[outathm]

This weekend on another field a coach told one of our crew that the 10 after 3 run rule was only in effect in the 3rd inning and since it was the 4th it didn't count. Of course he was explaining this as the crew was walking off the field, to go change.

[Andy]

Originally Posted by outathm

This weekend on another field a coach told one of our crew that the 10 after 3 run rule was only in effect in the 3rd inning and since it was the 4th it didn't count. Of course he was explaining this as the crew was walking off the field, to go change.

Similar Story - Men's FP National, 12 after 3 run rule, visting team scores a couple of runs with one out in the top of the fourth to go ahead by 12 runs. The team starts filing out of the dugout to shake hands with the other team...That's it, right blue? We're up by 12 and it's after the 3rd inning....

I calmly explained that the home team would still get their chance to bat in the bottom of the fourth....

Originally Posted by Andy

Similar Story - Men's FP National, 12 after 3 run rule, visting team scores a couple of runs with one out in the top of the fourth to go ahead by 12 runs. The team starts filing out of the dugout to shake hands with the other team...That's it, right blue? We're up by 12 and it's after the 3rd inning....

I calmly explained that the home team would still get their chance to bat in the bottom of the fourth....

Happens all the time in rec ball. Even had it happen in men's travel SP ball once...an USSSA NIT. That about floored me.

[3afan]

referring to an illegal pitch call:

"Come on blue. If the other coach ain't hollering then it aint illegal."