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Old Sun Aug 23, 2009, 03:35pm
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Correct. NSA is one such org. USSSA says:



Remember, U-Trip starts with a 1-1 count, so they're referring to one strike AFTER being given the 1-1 count.
Highlighted in red is NOT true. That's the "general" assumption everyone makes. No where in the USSSA book does it say a player starts with a 1-1 count. I got reamed by an UIC in championship play in my 2nd or 3rd year for doing this. They start with a 0-0 count, but only get 2 strikes as opposed to 3, 3 balls as opposed to 4.
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Old Sun Aug 23, 2009, 10:46pm
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Highlighted in red is NOT true. That's the "general" assumption everyone makes. No where in the USSSA book does it say a player starts with a 1-1 count. I got reamed by an UIC in championship play in my 2nd or 3rd year for doing this. They start with a 0-0 count, but only get 2 strikes as opposed to 3, 3 balls as opposed to 4.
Good catch and clarification. It's been years since I've done U-Trip (about 13, actually), so the details are still a bit fuzzy.

Sorry for any confusion!
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Highlighted in red is NOT true. That's the "general" assumption everyone makes. No where in the USSSA book does it say a player starts with a 1-1 count. I got reamed by an UIC in championship play in my 2nd or 3rd year for doing this. They start with a 0-0 count, but only get 2 strikes as opposed to 3, 3 balls as opposed to 4.
Which a group can do when their rule book addresses one game. With ASA, it was easier to sell the "assume a 1-1 count" to those who deal with multiple games under the same set of rules.
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