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Old Mon Jul 20, 2009, 09:16pm
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What an absolutely horrible call, or lack of one, at the plate.

Of course, the THs are just as stupid as to not understand the obstruction.

From ISF Rules:

Sec. 65. OBSTRUCTION.
Obstruction is the act of:
a. A defensive player or team member that hinders or prevents a batter from striking or hitting a pitched ball.
b. A fielder who impedes the progress of a runner or batter-runner who is legally running bases while:
1. not in possession of the ball, or
2. not in the act of fielding a batted ball, or
3. Making a fake tag without the ball, or
4. In possession of the ball and who pushes a runner off a base, or
5. In possession of the ball, but not in the act of making a play on the runner which intentionally impedes
the progress of that runner, while he is legally running the bases.
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Old Mon Jul 20, 2009, 09:22pm
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Wow! Ya think the Australian coach is a little pissed?

If they are going to continue this tournament, umpire assignment methods must change. You need to not use umpires from the participating countries. Again, just the simple appearance of anything not kosher is unacceptable whether perceived (which is what I believe would be in any case) or not.

Of course, the THs said he checked with the umpire on 3rd and if he did, he was pretty slick about it because I didn't see it and neither did the Aus. coach. Then again, you are not going to check on a called swing.
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Old Mon Jul 20, 2009, 09:23pm
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Thanks for the ISF Rule. No doubt that was obstruction.

How about the, "yes she did" without checking with his partner. That is a quick call mechanic. You don't wait until after the catcher is pointing and asking. Once she does stop and go to your partner. Got to love what the Aus coach said about the PU playing to the camera. Maybe this was a make up call

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He actually was doing a decent job until the OBS call and the check swing.

Even if you didnt call obs on the initial appearance and action of the play, when the ball rolled away after the catcher shouldered the runner away from the bag, simple, throw the arm.

It was a nobrainer obs call.
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Old Mon Jul 20, 2009, 09:36pm
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Thanks for the ISF Rule. No doubt that was obstruction.
USA coach was also critical of the runner for not going inside. And, of course, Michelle Smith picked up on this even after the replay showed the catcher occupied the front corner of the plate and only "fell" back into the runner after missing the ball.

I wasn't overly impressed with the umpire just sitting there, hands on knees waiting for somebody to do something.
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Old Mon Jul 20, 2009, 10:02pm
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This was the only play I happened to catch tonight, and the first words out of my mouth were, "oh, he f***ed THAT one up!" It was OBS, clear as DAY.
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I haven't decided if I should call it from the dugout or the outfield. Apparently, both have really great views!

Screw green, it ain't easy being blue!

I won't be coming here that much anymore. I might check in now and again.
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Old Mon Jul 20, 2009, 10:04pm
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Where was the ump from? I missed the game as I was working a dh. when's the replay?
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Old Mon Jul 20, 2009, 10:12pm
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From ISF Rules:

Sec. 65. OBSTRUCTION.
Obstruction is the act of:
...
[B][I]
b. A fielder who impedes the progress of a runner or batter-runner who is legally running bases while:
...
or...
5. In possession of the ball, but not in the act of making a play on the runner which intentionally impedes
the progress of that runner, while he is legally running the bases.
So when might ASA adopt this rule?
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I haven't decided if I should call it from the dugout or the outfield. Apparently, both have really great views!

Screw green, it ain't easy being blue!

I won't be coming here that much anymore. I might check in now and again.
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Old Mon Jul 20, 2009, 10:13pm
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Where was the ump from? I missed the game as I was working a dh. when's the replay?
KC

You can probably catch the rerun at ESPN360 any time.
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Old Mon Jul 20, 2009, 10:15pm
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So when might ASA adopt this rule?
When someone proposes and can sell it.
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Old Mon Jul 20, 2009, 10:29pm
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5. In possession of the ball, but not in the act of making a play on the runner which intentionally impedes[/LEFT]
the progress of that runner, while he is legally running the bases.


Please give an example of a situation where this would apply. I'm having trouble seeing this.
Thanks
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Old Mon Jul 20, 2009, 10:46pm
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I have no idea what he was looking at.... or thinking on that play.... txtbook obstruction..

and yah... he kicked the strike three call..... and deserved the *** chewing he got......
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Old Mon Jul 20, 2009, 10:54pm
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Where was the ump from? I missed the game as I was working a dh. when's the replay?
Also it might be replayed on ESPN2 and they did replay some of the games on ESPNU this past weekend.
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Old Mon Jul 20, 2009, 11:34pm
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KC
KC - Kansas City?

He made two errors. When he sees the replay, he is going to see he blew em big time. Glad I don'ts (how is that for english) have to process that.

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Old Tue Jul 21, 2009, 12:33am
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As we have seen, these umps call a tighter strike zone than most of the college umps did from our vantage point --the couch. Some of these umps should have been in the tourney and not the in the ocean umps we saw time and time again. Kathy Straham out to take a good look at this and make adjustments. Just my HO.
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