PU Hold while BU(s) position or Both back in simulataneously

[SethPDX]

Originally Posted by kcg NC2Ablu

at on etime they were .... are they now?

These still are in LL softball (and baseball) for players age 12 and under:

Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA

Runner may not lose contact with the base until the ball reaches the batter.

Substitute pitcher must pitch to one batter.

Batter is out immediately after three strikes are called (no 3rd strike rule).

At the upper divisions you can leave when the pitch is released, and a third strike must be caught.

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by SethPDX

These still are in LL softball (and baseball) for players age 12 and under:


At the upper divisions you can leave when the pitch is released, and a third strike must be caught.

Not trying to be a smart ***, but LL did not have softball at the time these rules were in place. To be honest, I don't believe you can compare LL to the rest of the softball world. Many of the rules are baseball-based (as were many of the early softball rules) and remain so at the original age levels.

And like ASA changes at the men's FP game, I believe it may be that the rules at the older levels of LL softball were possibly forced changes to stay competitive with the softball organizations with which they compete.

Just an opinion.

[jmkupka]

Mike, I'm assuming that you advocate eliminating the LBR, but retaining a rule preventing a runner from leaving before the pitch is released. Otherwise there will never be another out at 2B on a steal attempt(?)

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by jmkupka

Mike, I'm assuming that you advocate eliminating the LBR, but retaining a rule preventing a runner from leaving before the pitch is released. Otherwise there will never be another out at 2B on a steal attempt(?)

Correct. That is a separate rule which I have not discussed. As previously noted, nothing really changes except the runner is returned to the previously touched base instead of being ruled out.

[SethPDX]

Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA

Not trying to be a smart ***, but LL did not have softball at the time these rules were in place. To be honest, I don't believe you can compare LL to the rest of the softball world. Many of the rules are baseball-based (as were many of the early softball rules) and remain so at the original age levels.

And like ASA changes at the men's FP game, I believe it may be that the rules at the older levels of LL softball were possibly forced changes to stay competitive with the softball organizations with which they compete.

Just an opinion.

I agree with you on this. LL is different, and you're probably right about the reason for the changes at the upper levels. It wouldn't bother me to see LL take a long look at its softball rules and maybe get closer to the rest of softball. I can dream...