PU Hold while BU(s) position or Both back in simulataneously

[MNBlue]

Originally Posted by Chess Ref

My question is walk quickly or jog back to plate area after the BU is in position ?

I'm telling all of the umpires going through our training program that there are 2 modes of motion while umpiring: stopped and jogging. Sometimes jogging will have to increase to running.

I've seen too many umpires waaaallllllkkkkkk into position. It is a lazy, old man saunter - and it looks like they don't care. If I don't think they care, what must the coaches, players and fans think.

[wadeintothem]

Originally Posted by MNBlue

I'm telling all of the umpires going through our training program that there are 2 modes of motion while umpiring: stopped and jogging. Sometimes jogging will have to increase to running.

I've seen too many umpires waaaallllllkkkkkk into position. It is a lazy, old man saunter - and it looks like they don't care. If I don't think they care, what must the coaches, players and fans think.

Thats actually what started the hole thing. I was working with a partner who moseyed around and I chewed his @$$ until I got him to hustle, then I went to our association MB and chewed everyones @$$ that they needed to hustle to release the PU because people were not hustling.

Then an high up umpire in our assoc posted that..

Irish posted a dead on ruling from ASA.

Its been my experience that people are still using the "post and release" version at all levels of play; but it looks like the other umpire was not too far off base.

So thanks.

[Chess Ref]

Originally Posted by MNBlue

I'm telling all of the umpires going through our training program that there are 2 modes of motion while umpiring: stopped and jogging. Sometimes jogging will have to increase to running.

I've seen too many umpires waaaallllllkkkkkk into position. It is a lazy, old man saunter - and it looks like they don't care. If I don't think they care, what must the coaches, players and fans think.

I know what you're talking about- the ole stroll through the park...

So when I've got 3B as PU I have been walking smartly, think military walk, back to the plate.

Yer suggesting I should jog back ?

[MNBlue]

Originally Posted by Chess Ref

Yer suggesting I should jog back ?

That's what I do and that's what I'm training people to do.

However, some people have been know to call me anal.

[NCASAUmp]

Originally Posted by MNBlue

That's what I do and that's what I'm training people to do.

However, some people have been know to call me anal.

I'm SP-only, but I've always been told that if you, as the BU, aren't jogging back to B, you'll get dinged on your evals.

Same with the PU.

The difference is that the ball is dead, and runners stay where they are, so the need to watch the runners during this time isn't very high.

[MNBlue]

Originally Posted by NCASAUmp

The difference is that the ball is dead, and runners stay where they are, so the need to watch the runners during this time isn't very high.

The priority is different, but the result is the same. Most, if not all, SP games have a 60 minute time limit, give or take a few minutes. If you are lollygagging during dead ball periods, you're wasting their playing time.

Some people take the opinion of great!, let's do that. Less work, less whining, same pay. I don't roll that way. They're paying to play. I'm getting paid to work. I shouldn't limit what their paying to do because I don't want to do what I'm getting paid to do. Maybe that's why they are calling me anal.

[NCASAUmp]

Originally Posted by MNBlue

The priority is different, but the result is the same. Most, if not all, SP games have a 60 minute time limit, give or take a few minutes. If you are lollygagging during dead ball periods, you're wasting their playing time.

Some people take the opinion of great!, let's do that. Less work, less whining, same pay. I don't roll that way. They're paying to play. I'm getting paid to work. I shouldn't limit what their paying to do because I don't want to do what I'm getting paid to do. Maybe that's why they are calling me anal.

And maybe that's why you get invited to call tourneys and don't get stuck year in, year out, doing only league games.

I'll admit I don't haul butt at the end of every play when calling league games. When doing 3 games in a row, I HAVE to pace myself. However, I'm always in position well before the pitcher is ready to pitch, and I make sure I'm not the one holding up the game. If there's any holdup, it ain't due to any laziness on my part.

Calling in a tourney, on the other hand, is different. I'm jogging back to the plate or back to B at the end of every play. You will never see otherwise from me.

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by MNBlue

However, some people have been know to call me anal.

Hey, get off my corner!!!

Though taught it years ago, I do not agree with the jogging/running into position as the be all to end all.

Your time between plays may be the only time you get to take a relaxing breath. Too many people confuse running with hustle. They are not the same. I have sprinted back to my position and still had the PU waiting on me because everyone else did not have to wait for a play at 3B to finish before turning away from the play.

As long as the umpire is where they belong as soon as they can get there is fine by me. I want that umpire to be ready and able to cover the next play as well as s/he did the last one. I DO NOT want to call 911 because an umpire went down due to heat, exhaustion or any other reason.

If that means taking a couple relaxing steps on the way to their next position, that's okay. However, do not let me see the game stop because you did not make an effort to get into position in time.