PU Hold while BU(s) position or Both back in simulataneously

[kcg NC2Ablu]

DUMB.... plate wait for base to move to posistion. then plate turns hustles back . This way eyes are on the field at all times. The reason we dont want people turn from the field is because they will miss the look back or any other potential conduct that we should see. so one watches then the other... then get to the next pitch.

who ever told you to back into posistion is lazy. If you hustle as the BU and then hustle as the PU you wont waste any time.

[wadeintothem]

He is a PAC 10 confererence and ASA FP ISF/Elite.. this is no slouch joe blow umpire, which is why I am here wondering what you guys think before I take this on...

[RKBUmp]

Everything I have been taught is that the plate ump holds while the base ump moves into position, make eye contact and then plate ump moves.

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by kcg NC2Ablu

DUMB.... plate wait for base to move to posistion. then plate turns hustles back . This way eyes are on the field at all times. The reason we dont want people turn from the field is because they will miss the look back or any other potential conduct that we should see. so one watches then the other... then get to the next pitch.

who ever told you to back into posistion is lazy. If you hustle as the BU and then hustle as the PU you wont waste any time.

Or the PU can just kill the ball and everyone hustles into position and move on with the game.

[topper]

Absolutely nothing wrong with PU keeping an eye on the ball/runners while moving back to the plate as BU hustles to new position. One pair of eyes should be enough, however. Can't imagine why he would recommend BU watching as well.

[ronald]

Originally Posted by topper

Absolutely nothing wrong with PU keeping an eye on the ball/runners while moving back to the plate as BU hustles to new position. One pair of eyes should be enough, however. Can't imagine why he would recommend BU watching as well.

1. four eyes are better than two
2. multiple runners

[kcg NC2Ablu]

Originally Posted by ronald

1. four eyes are better than two
2. multiple runners

COP OUT ... if you cant see the whole field while you HOLD and wait for your partner then get a new job this one isnt for you. What happens when you have multiple runners on and one of them leaves early in the two man system? if you can see that then you can hold and wait for your partner. I dont care who it is who told you that wade I can tell you the ISF and NCAA post season umpires ( one of which is both and worked the dish on the gold final) would quite literally crap their pants if they saw someone try to do this with them. BY THE WAY that is not a mechanic in the NCAA Softball Umpires manual so I dont know where this guy is getting that from ... SOOOOOOOOooooooOOOO in conclusion ... it doesnt matter that he is a pac 10 umpire.

[wadeintothem]

I agree; I just cant hammer this guy publicly though; it gotta be handled correctly. The info he provided is bs because new people have already posted they are getting told two different things (I told them they needed to hold).

I wonder if it's written anywhere on earth or if thats just info passed along secretly generation to generation.

[Chess Ref]

Originally Posted by wadeintothem

I agree; I just cant hammer this guy publicly though; it gotta be handled correctly. The info he provided is bs because new people have already posted they are getting told two different things (I told them they needed to hold).

I wonder if it's written anywhere on earth or if thats just info passed along secretly generation to generation.

Rock and a hard place for you Wade...

I'm a holder. My question is walk quickly or jog back to plate area after the BU is in position ?

Side note. Our area went to working the rim a couple of years ago. In the umpire translater that meant " Never having to buttonhook again." Kind of the same thing, sort of.

[topper]

Originally Posted by kcg NC2Ablu

BY THE WAY that is not a mechanic in the NCAA Softball Umpires manual so I dont know where this guy is getting that from ... SOOOOOOOOooooooOOOO in conclusion ... it doesnt matter that he is a pac 10 umpire.

Neither is having a visable Schutt emblem on your face mask. But the WCWS crew in '08 sure were sporting them. Some things in the manual are more important than others. Standing statue still while waiting on you BUs to get into position then robotically turning and sprinting back to the plate is not one of them.

[kcg NC2Ablu]

Originally Posted by topper

Neither is having a visable Schutt emblem on your face mask. But the WCWS crew in '08 sure were sporting them. Some things in the manual are more important than others. Standing statue still while waiting on you BUs to get into position then robotically turning and sprinting back to the plate is not one of them.

well if you want to both turn your back or ...
back into your pos. while walking there good for you ... I wont see you in the post season.

[wadeintothem]

Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA

Or the PU can just kill the ball and everyone hustles into position and move on with the game.

*gasp*

Sinner!