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[ronald]

First time I ever did 18u gold was after doing a men's FP tournament in which the reigning Men's A team played. Another pitcher a couple years later pitched for the Mexican National team and I did one of his games in a tourney at that time. Called pitches 2 inches or less in or out a ball all day and not a complaint from any team nor catchers indicating with shaking of head or mumbling about strike zone. I generally do not do that with women: they expect that to be called a strike. Not the men though. That is my experience.

In the game, the men were leaping and one of the guys threw at 80mph. When I did the gold, I was like this is slow, slow. Others were like this is fast. Nah, slow motion and you can see real well after seeing men throw.

Plus she blew that easy safe call at 2nd base.

[topper]

Originally Posted by ronald

First time I ever did 18u gold was after doing a men's FP tournament in which the reigning Men's A team played. Another pitcher a couple years later pitched for the Mexican National team and I did one of his games in a tourney at that time. Called pitches 2 inches or less in or out a ball all day and not a complaint from any team nor catchers indicating with shaking of head or mumbling about strike zone. I generally do not do that with women: they expect that to be called a strike. Not the men though. That is my experience.

In the game, the men were leaping and one of the guys threw at 80mph. When I did the gold, I was like this is slow, slow. Others were like this is fast. Nah, slow motion and you can see real well after seeing men throw.

Plus she blew that easy safe call at 2nd base.

Let's see, you've done men's FP, called a game where noone complained, and have a different zone according to gender. Now I see why you would feel qualified to criticize a fellow official's game. Next time you get a TV game, please post the time, date, and network so we can take a look at yours.

[ChampaignBlue]

Sally's doing the finals? Congrats to her. I live in the Congo now and oddly enough the series isn't being televised here but she and I were rookies together a few years back in Champaign (not going to say how many) She always had great mechanics that showed how much she worked at it.

[wadeintothem]

I havent got to watch the game yet, but I will.

I think softball has to do more to learn how to work TV games. If a ball looked way outside to everyone - then it was way outside. The public is not sitting there saying "wow that angle is off". They are saying "Whats wrong with these umpires?". So even if it was a bad angle, it doesnt matter. "History" records it as a bad call.

Angles CAN properly show a pitch - they put a dang yellow box up in MLB. So if NCAA and ESPN need to work on a camera angle, ESPN sure knows how to do that. Otherwise, what was seen is what it was. Period. And our credibility is hurt a little by that angle (if its a bad angle) OR it was simply a bad call and she missed it.

The umpires view is not expressed to the public at large. Ronald is just expressing what everyone else thinks about that pitch as well. So NCAA umpire staff need to take the post season games, and look very closely at them.. There is much to be improved IMO. This has been a very rough post season from an Umpiring point of view.

[SRW]

When you guys see a good backdoor curve and call it a ball, you'll know you missed the pitch. Everyone in the park will tell ya.

I agree with Sally, bkbjones, and others here - those were strikes through and through.

[rwest]

Originally Posted by SRW

When you guys see a good backdoor curve and call it a ball, you'll know you missed the pitch. Everyone in the park will tell ya.

I agree with Sally, bkbjones, and others here - those were strikes through and through.

Since when do we as umpires listen to what everyone at the park says? If that's the case, the next time a fly ball is over foul territory when the ball is touched but not caught by the defender who is in fair territory then its a fair ball. At least that's what the majority at the park will be screaming!

Or the next time they yell the hands are part of the bat.

There's a lot they yell about that they are wrong about. We shouldn't base on judgements on what they yell about it.

[CecilOne]

Originally Posted by rwest

If that's the case, the next time a fly ball is over foul territory when the ball is touched but not caught by the defender who is in fair territory then its a fair ball.

I didn't know you could see that game from all the way in Georgia. Oh, that happens to others, too.


Didn't anyone tell you to call "foul player" instead of "foul ball"?


BTW, be sure you call it foul before checking for a catch.

[SRW]

Originally Posted by rwest

Since when do we as umpires listen to what everyone at the park says? If that's the case, the next time a fly ball is over foul territory when the ball is touched but not caught by the defender who is in fair territory then its a fair ball. At least that's what the majority at the park will be screaming!

Or the next time they yell the hands are part of the bat.

There's a lot they yell about that they are wrong about. We shouldn't base on judgements on what they yell about it.

You missed my point.

[HugoTafurst]

Forget about the umpires...

The Gators played those two games like a bunch of Little Leaguers. (no offense to LL).