Silly NCAA runner assistance rule...

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by NCASAUmp

So if you're an assignor with a new person in your crew with whom you have limited to no experience, you wouldn't send them to the lower levels first and see how they do?

We are not talking about rookie umpires here. Just because they don't have experience at that level, to get to that consideration, they would have had to prove themselves elsewhere. This isn't like someone who has never umpired before or, at least, shouldn't be.

I've sent people to nationals and took a load of heat from different directions because others didn't believe they were ready or had enough experience at the lower levels. All returned with Excellent/Good evaluations. There is more to it than just working certain levels of the game.

[NCASAUmp]

Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA

We are not talking about rookie umpires here. Just because they don't have experience at that level, to get to that consideration, they would have had to prove themselves elsewhere. This isn't like someone who has never umpired before or, at least, shouldn't be.

I've sent people to nationals and took a load of heat from different directions because others didn't believe they were ready or had enough experience at the lower levels. All returned with Excellent/Good evaluations. There is more to it than just working certain levels of the game.

Right, but you're trusting that they were being sent to you with a blessing rather than a curse.

I fully recognize that if I were to move to someplace other than NC, I'd get stuck doing the bottom rung games for a while. And you know what? That's okay with me because A) someone has to do it, and B) my assignor hasn't gotten to know me yet.

You assign the people you have based upon how certain you are that they can handle that level. JuCo games, while still important, are not D1A.

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by NCASAUmp

Right, but you're trusting that they were being sent to you with a blessing rather than a curse.

Oh, no, I've experienced that and it wasn't a lot of fun. I'm referring to umpires I have sent away.

I fully recognize that if I were to move to someplace other than NC, I'd get stuck doing the bottom rung games for a while.

Even in Cheeseland?

And you know what? That's okay with me because A) someone has to do it, and B) my assignor hasn't gotten to know me yet.

I would do it for one reason, I'm an umpire.

You assign the people you have based upon how certain you are that they can handle that level. JuCo games, while still important, are not D1A.

Yet, there is a good possibility it may be a more difficult game to umpire. Wouldn't you want the experienced umpire here?

[NCASAUmp]

Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA

Even in Cheeseland?

Oh ja, for sure!

Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA

I would do it for one reason, I'm an umpire.

Which is exactly why I tell my assignor, "I'll call whatever you put in front of me."

Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA

Yet, there is a good possibility it may be a more difficult game to umpire. Wouldn't you want the experienced umpire here?

Oh, of course! There are some low-level teams in our area that are notorious for giving lesser-qualified umpires a harder time, and a stronger umpire should go to those games. My statement about JuCo is general in nature. Exceptions will always exist.

However... If this had happened in D1, I'm sure it wouldn't be just in local papers like what happened in this incident. It'd probably make it all the way to ESPN. Thus, as an assignor, you want to minimize the likelihood of that happening by putting your better umpires on those games.

[outathm]

Say what you want about JUCO, but Crystal Bustos was a JUCO player before she was on the national team. A lot of these players are DI players that are 'clearing house ineligible'.

On the other half of this thread, I am in PA right now and I made sure I bought enough beer for the weekend before I crossed the state line. Almost blew out my shocks, but the rest of it fit in the trailer.

[HugoTafurst]

Countdown with Keith OlbermannCountdown with Keith Olbermann

Coach made Olbermann's WORST PERSON IN THE WORLD!!

[NCASAUmp]

Originally Posted by HugoTafurst

Countdown with Keith OlbermannCountdown with Keith Olbermann

Coach made Olbermann's WORST PERSON IN THE WORLD!!

I'm surprised that the media actually researched and got the rule right.

[CajunNewBlue]

Originally Posted by HugoTafurst

Countdown with Keith OlbermannCountdown with Keith Olbermann

Coach made Olbermann's WORST PERSON IN THE WORLD!!

rofl ..snap.
stupid umpires... sigh. (not stupid all the time... just stupid to get media coverage on this turd) sigh