Mandatory slide crap

[bkbjones]

So the next time someone says something about a mandatory slide rule, particularly at the plate, I will refer them to my young friend Meagan, the catcher who was taken straight off the field via ambulance in my game yesterday with a neck injury (likely minor, but a minor neck injury is akin to minor surgery), some cuts inside her mouth from her braces, and likely a concussion.

Girls 16U FP, largest tournament of the year, playing on all kinds of fields. This one is enclosed but 300' fences. B1 hits one approximately 279 feet. She's coming around third at a full head of steam. Throw to catcher is to first base side of home plate, so catcher has to reach back for it and then dive across at the runner, who is sliding.

Wham. Bam. No thank you ma'am.

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by bkbjones

So the next time someone says something about a mandatory slide rule, particularly at the plate, I will refer them to my young friend Meagan, the catcher who was taken straight off the field via ambulance in my game yesterday with a neck injury (likely minor, but a minor neck injury is akin to minor surgery), some cuts inside her mouth from her braces, and likely a concussion.

Girls 16U FP, largest tournament of the year, playing on all kinds of fields. This one is enclosed but 300' fences. B1 hits one approximately 279 feet. She's coming around third at a full head of steam. Throw to catcher is to first base side of home plate, so catcher has to reach back for it and then dive across at the runner, who is sliding.

Wham. Bam. No thank you ma'am.

Sorry, John, but ........ what's your point and where does the "must slide" issue come into it?

[wadeintothem]

Obviously, the runner should have been sliding. What else should she have been doing, going in like a line backer?

Softball is a dangerous sport.

Sometimes requiring a slide is probably more safe than not. I had a sitch last night where a shortstop said next time that runner decides not to slide when I'm trying to throw it to first for the double play, I'm gonna hit him. Not the first time, and it wasn't an obvious attempt to break up a double play, but still....

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by Ref Ump Welsch

Sometimes requiring a slide is probably more safe than not.

Hope you have counsel on a retainer, 'cause it isn't worth my house and family.

I had a sitch last night where a shortstop said next time that runner decides not to slide when I'm trying to throw it to first for the double play, I'm gonna hit him. Not the first time, and it wasn't an obvious attempt to break up a double play, but still....

That is where warn or throw the SS for USC and make sure all participants know that I am more than willing to offer testimony to the statement showing predetermination and maybe even suggesting a nasty, er....I mean good lawyer to the injured player's family.

Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA

Hope you have counsel on a retainer, 'cause it isn't worth my house and family.



That is where warn or throw the SS for USC and make sure all participants know that I am more than willing to offer testimony to the statement showing predetermination and maybe even suggesting a nasty, er....I mean good lawyer to the injured player's family.

I meant that rhetorically, but there are situations where a slide would be the better protection for the runner, i.e. the play I described in my earlier posting.

This was uttered in a USSSA men's slow-pitch travel team league. I told the SS (who is a fellow umpire by the way) I'm ignoring that, but if it did happen he wouldn't be finishing the night on the field. I also went to the other team and suggested getting down or out of the way somehow to allow the throw to 1B for the double play, or I would be calling interference. I had to be careful with my choice of words both ways because I was working with my local Assistant UIC, and he's known to kowtow to the teams' whims in this league.

[bkbjones]

Originally Posted by Ref Ump Welsch

Sometimes requiring a slide is probably more safe than not...

Tell it to the girl at a regional I worked in 2003...the one with the compound leg fracture who hasn't been able to play sports since.

Tell it to the catcher who left the field yesterday in the ambulance.

I'm sure we can find many more examples. It can be a dangerous sport, and making slides mandatory at any level is not going to make it any less dangerous.

[Stu Clary]

Originally Posted by bkbjones

Their father's father was one year old when he slid into second base...and was fatally garrotted by his necklace when he was tagged.

One year olds shouldn't wear necklaces or play competitive sports.

Still, I must say that it's pretty impressive that he sired a son and played ball at such a young age. What a prodigy!

[bkbjones]

Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA

Sorry, John, but ........ what's your point and where does the "must slide" issue come into it?

The point I was trying to make is that is pointless to have a mandatory slide rule. This runner did slide, legally, without malice...and catcher left in an ambulance.