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Old Tue Apr 21, 2009, 11:07am
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14U ASA game. I'm plate .

So coach changes pitchers and that subsequently causes him to move players around and in /out of the game. Partner says he'll take care of the warm up pitches so I go to the business of the line up card.

I get done and partner tells me we have ball one on the batter. He told her she could have 7 warm up pitches and she took 8. I don't know where he got 7,baseball ? but thats what he went with. I explained my position about pitches while I was doing umpire stuff but he felt she should have stopped at 7 pitches.

So DC comes out. I explain what happened and he gets a little fired up but cools off quickly.

My question is was it okay for me to explain to DC even though partner "made the call" ?
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Old Tue Apr 21, 2009, 11:21am
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14U ASA game. I'm plate .

So coach changes pitchers and that subsequently causes him to move players around and in /out of the game. Partner says he'll take care of the warm up pitches so I go to the business of the line up card.

I get done and partner tells me we have ball one on the batter. He told her she could have 7 warm up pitches and she took 8. I don't know where he got 7,baseball ? but thats what he went with. I explained my position about pitches while I was doing umpire stuff but he felt she should have stopped at 7 pitches.

So DC comes out. I explain what happened and he gets a little fired up but cools off quickly.

My question is was it okay for me to explain to DC even though partner "made the call" ?
You mean to take the protest? You are PU.

If for some reason I couldn't convince my partner to back off of this there is no way I'd be the one explaining the call.
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Old Tue Apr 21, 2009, 12:20pm
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...So DC comes out. I explain what happened and he gets a little fired up but cools off quickly.

My question is was it okay for me to explain to DC even though partner "made the call" ?
No. I would not. Let him stew in his own juice. Unless he told the pitcher to stop, and she continued anyway, ASA 6-9 says the excessive warm-up pitches penalty does not apply in this situation. (Didn't we just discuss this?) I don't suppose you told him the limit was 5 pitches, so the "correct" penalty was 3 balls, did you?
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Old Tue Apr 21, 2009, 12:29pm
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No. I would not. Let him stew in his own juice. Unless he told the pitcher to stop, and she continued anyway, ASA 6-9 says the excessive warm-up pitches penalty does not apply in this situation. (Didn't we just discuss this?) I don't suppose you told him the limit was 5 pitches, so the "correct" penalty was 3 balls, did you?
I let him know. It went over about as well as me telling my wife I'm going to Vegas for a weekend, alone.
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I let him know. It went over about as well as me telling my wife I'm going to Vegas for a weekend, alone.
Going to check out the ranch while there?
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Old Tue Apr 21, 2009, 12:39pm
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Well, in baseball the new pitcher gets 8 warm-up pitches, so he would have blown the call there, too!
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Going to check out the ranch while there?
Nah just a weekend of sitting around around sports books and watching baseball on the nickel line.
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Tom is correct.
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Old Tue Apr 21, 2009, 01:14pm
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I let him know. It went over about as well as me telling my wife I'm going to Vegas for a weekend, alone.
Darn! I was looking forward to a Bunny report.
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Old Tue Apr 21, 2009, 01:53pm
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Nah just a weekend of sitting around around sports books and watching baseball on the nickel line.
In case you change your mind......

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In case you change your mind......

Map & Directions to The BunnyRanch Menu!
I spent my JR High, High School and college years in and around Las Vegas.

I know where Nye County is and all that that implies.

I also know how to troll around the mean streets of Las Vegas.

I'm too old and too married to troll anymore.
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I'm too old and too married to troll anymore.
Hence the reason for the ranch! No muss, no fuss, no looking closely for an Adam's Apple

Just bring your money and be had!
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I admit I'm torn between out and out telling him to go kick rocks on his bs call and starting my count where I want, since it is a rules issue or letting him stew in his own mess. I'm not sure what I would do. Its just a BS call by an umpire. There really is no need for this stuff and it gives us all a bad name. When we see parents on other sites complaining about this stuff - much of it is for good reason. I truely believe a small portion of us go out there looking to "get em" - and that is unfortunate.
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Hence the reason for the ranch! No muss, no fuss, no looking closely for an Adam's Apple

Just bring your money and be had!
And too expensive...
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And too expensive...
Too expensive? I thought you said you were married.
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