Extra warm up pitches

[NCASAUmp]

Originally Posted by AtlUmpSteve

The hell there isn't!! You can (and I do) refuse to allow the extra pitches when the coach delays the game. Your game; not his. The one minute between innings applies to everyone; it is a reasonable amount of time for the offense to get ready, and the defense to warm up. It is an equally reasonable amount of time for a coach to tell you about a normal substitution.

Granted, he may have 4 changes, and looks at the lineup card to be sure we are getting it right; fine. If he started that process in a reasonable time, it is what it is. If he waits the full minute, then comes to me, his delay, not the umpire's delay, so the exception does not apply.

Well, if I've got a coach who appears to be on the ball, handles things in a timely manner, and does that only once, I've got no problem with it. It's allowable within the rules. If I get a whiff that the coach is trying to pull something, then I'll tell the pitcher to stop warming up while I deal with the coach.

But by rule, if we're engaged in handling substitutions with a coach, yeah, they can continue warming up. Good game management dictates otherwise, but it's written in black and white.

[IRISHMAFIA]

Worked a HS game yesterday where the coach not only couldn't remember her changes, but had a hard time figuring out who was wearing what number.

About 45 seconds into the coach's memory lapse, the pitcher had used her warm-up allotment, I cleaned the PP, returned to my position, looked up and saw the coach FINALLY pull out a line-up card to help her.

The temps were in the low 40s with 20+ mph winds. There was no way I was telling this pitcher she had to just stand there.

I have a feeling this coach was the closest thing to an athletic female teacher at the school and was thrown into the coaching position. Team couldn't play for $hit, both pitchers were illegal and actually got worse as the game progressed.

I spent a portion of the game coaching the coaches of this team. Luckily, the opponent's staff understood as I kept them in the loop. The field did not have any lights and I wanted to get the game done while I could still feel my fingers and toes.

Told the assigner I need more money if I was going to umpire and coach at the same time.

[CecilOne]

Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA

Worked a HS game

Am I reading this correctly?

NEWS FLASH ??

I didn't know there was HS slow pitch in Delaware.

[JefferMC]

Originally Posted by CecilOne

Am I reading this correctly?

NEWS FLASH ??

I didn't know there was HS slow pitch in Delaware.

Hey... yeah! Something did start buzzing around in my head when Irish said something about HS ball, but I couldn't put my finger on it.

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by CecilOne

Am I reading this correctly?

NEWS FLASH ??

I didn't know there was HS slow pitch in Delaware.

Actually, I have helped out in the past, also, just don't make a big deal out of it. Only work when there are more games than umpires which happens more than one would think since the local HS association does absolutely nothing to help coordinate schedules to facilitate proper coverage.

[MichaelVA2000]

Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA

Actually, I have helped out in the past, also, just don't make a big deal out of it.

Were you helping out on the bases or behind the plate?

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by MichaelVA2000

Were you helping out on the bases or behind the plate?

Though I carry plate gear and am prepared to take the dish IF NECESSARY, I don't believe it is fair to teams for me to use their varsity league games to bone up on my game.

[LIIRISHMAN]

I know many of you here do upper level games(NCAA or Nationals) and you must enforce the rulebook however some of us are at HS level or below. While I do try to move the game along it does happen that the break in between is sometimes longer than an minute. I'm not out there with a stopwatch(I do have my old Timex with me when do time limited games )as long as the teams are making a good faith effort to hustle in and out or in inclement(COLD) weather I'll give them an extra throw or two if they ask. I also think if you have a partner the BU should be counting warm up tosses if the HP is otherwise tied up.

[AtlUmpSteve]

Originally Posted by CecilOne

Am I reading this correctly?

NEWS FLASH ??

I didn't know there was HS slow pitch in Delaware.

State UIC. Knows, and capable of calling fastpitch; just not his preferred game. Could be way worse when they are short of qualified umpires, I think.

OK, also my friend. Still think what is above applies.