Scoring question

[CajunNewBlue]

Originally Posted by SRW

Huh? I haven't said anything in this thread until now...?

yeah..but you wanted to.

[chartrusepengui]

Originally Posted by Andy

Guys - I believe Archer's BB is referring to basketball, not baseball.

That being said, Mr. Archer - don't give me your sanctimonious high regard of the basketball forum, I've spent some time in there myself.

Try posting this question on the basketball forum;

"A player on the other team in my Men's rec league last night rebounded his own airball shot and the ref didn't call a travel. What the h*ll is wrong with these refs, anyway?"

and see how many smart-a** answers come back.

Please tell me you don't this from ........ GULP ......... experience!

[Tru_in_Blu]

Originally Posted by SRW

Huh? I haven't said anything in this thread until now...?

E-Ump

My apologies. Hopping around from thread to thread and obviously confused you with someone else. Suffice to know that I always appreciate your inputs as insightful, relevant, and competent.

Ted

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by SRW

Huh? I haven't said anything in this thread until now...?

There you go. The best way to be right is to not be wrong and you cannot be wrong if you don't say anything!

[archer]

To all you guys that attempted to give me an logical explanation in how that would be scored, I thank you..........

Now for you others that glorify your youth league officiating days........ I just remembered why I don't post here much anymore. Its because this site has been over run with youth and rec league officials that are not capable of working at a professional level.

You all sit and ***** about the fans yelling at you with stupid comments and yet you come on here and spew your ignorant remarks that sound so similar to howler monkeys.

As for the one that opened his pie hole about me cooking the books for my kid? That's about what I would expect from some ignorant LL umpire. You are probably so fat that your chest protector comes up past your navel.

Next time someone comes on here asking a question....... Before you morons that cant make the cut at making this a profession decide to respond. Maybe you should wipe the man gravy off your shirt. You are an embarrassment to officiating.

[Dakota]

Oooooooohhhhhhhh! You sure do talk a good insult. Too bad you can't read to go with it.

[NCASAUmp]

archer, let's say you decide to build your own house one day. You hire the contractors, you buy the land, and the house is being built.

During the process, an inspector comes out and says, "your plumbing is not up to code, and it must be fixed."

Do you ask the inspector what steps you should have the contractors take to fix it? No. Why not?

Because every person in this world has an area of expertise. Everyone in this world has his/her own role, his/her own part to play. HOW to build a house is not the inspector's role. Never has been, never will be.

In softball and baseball, it is not the umpire's role to determine how a run is scored in the books. By trade, that's not our area of expertise because it doesn't need to be.

We have a million things to worry about with respect to the rules of softball, as evidenced by the hundreds and hundreds of different threads in this forum alone. We don't care how a run scored (earned vs. unearned, etc.), because that is not part of our judgment. It's not a part of our duties. All we care about is whether or not the run DID score. Do you see football referees call out to the scorekeepers, "that was a 'hurry' on the quarterback?" Of course not.

So basically, you came to the wrong place, and you caught a bit of flack for it. Perhaps some of it was unnecessary, but hey... You were given suggestions on the appropriate place to take your questions, and you threw it right back at us.

[ronald]

And the pot was calling the kettle black.

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by archer

To all you guys that attempted to give me an logical explanation in how that would be scored, I thank you..........

Now for you others that glorify your youth league officiating days........ I just remembered why I don't post here much anymore. Its because this site has been over run with youth and rec league officials that are not capable of working at a professional level.

You all sit and ***** about the fans yelling at you with stupid comments and yet you come on here and spew your ignorant remarks that sound so similar to howler monkeys.

As for the one that opened his pie hole about me cooking the books for my kid? That's about what I would expect from some ignorant LL umpire. You are probably so fat that your chest protector comes up past your navel.

Next time someone comes on here asking a question....... Before you morons that cant make the cut at making this a profession decide to respond. Maybe you should wipe the man gravy off your shirt. You are an embarrassment to officiating.

I'll make you a similar offer to you which I did to Carl Childress on the e-mail list which preceded this site.

Show up in OKC during the World Cup and talk to the ladies playing in that tournament. While you are there, talk to the guys playing in the Battle of the Border slow pitch tournament being played at the same time. You will know who they are as they will stand out as quite a few of them will hover over you and be built quite well.

I will take any one of those men and women in athleticism, sport skill, dedication and professionalism against any two of your players any day. And, yes, some of us have worked games in which these players have participated as an individual or a team.

BTW, I'll take any of the umpires, also, against any of yours including MLB.

Of course, Carl failed to take me up on the offer, so I guess we should expect to see you there. Of maybe not.

[greymule]

Not sure if your comment about the great scoring expert Joe Morgan was tongue in cheek or not. Given what you described, I have the batter w/ a run-scoring single [assuming the runner scored] and advancing to 2B on the throw.

That's what everybody in the park and in the viewing audience had, too, except Joe.

[bkbjones]

Originally Posted by archer

To all you guys that attempted to give me an logical explanation in how that would be scored, I thank you..........

Now for you others that glorify your youth league officiating days........ I just remembered why I don't post here much anymore. Its because this site has been over run with youth and rec league officials that are not capable of working at a professional level.

You all sit and ***** about the fans yelling at you with stupid comments and yet you come on here and spew your ignorant remarks that sound so similar to howler monkeys.

As for the one that opened his pie hole about me cooking the books for my kid? That's about what I would expect from some ignorant LL umpire. You are probably so fat that your chest protector comes up past your navel.

Next time someone comes on here asking a question....... Before you morons that cant make the cut at making this a profession decide to respond. Maybe you should wipe the man gravy off your shirt. You are an embarrassment to officiating.

I was originally going to answer your post, then I saw your true colors. Don't you have an anatomically impossible act to perform? Take your sanctimonious butt back over to that other forum -- been there, seen your posts, your crap stinks there, too. We don't want your crap, don't need your crap. If you don't know the difference between a WP and a PB, then your question could NOT have been serious. Your references to LL umpires tells me one thing: you keep getting turned down short of Williamsport. Keep working on your 1-2-3-4-heads down-click on your clicker, and you will get there.

[SC Ump]

Originally Posted by archer

...about me cooking the books for my kid?

That wasn't me, nor would I imply nefarious actions by any. However, I do find it odd that you believe that college recruiters/scouts put so much faith in the HS game scoring usually done by volunteers, often untrained. (Having never been involved on that side of the game, I would not know.)

I also find it odd that this thread seems to have gone so far awry because you seem to have been hypersensitive to the fact that the only answer you got to your original post in the first 24 minutes was a yawn.

I do appreciate that you were able to use "pie hole", "cooking the books" and a gravy reference all in one of your post. It's kind of put me in the mood for a Denny's Grand Slam on this fine Saturday morning.

[Stu Clary]

Originally Posted by archer

2 outs and a runner on third. Pitcher throws a strike 3 looking pitch, the catcher cannot hold onto the ball and the runner scores from 3rd. Runner advances to 1st.

How is that scored as an earned or unearned run?

According to the explanation I got...

I wonder if the ruling (and subsequent explaination) would have changed if the offensive coach somehow noticed that the F2 was wearing a belly button ring and shouted to the plate umpire, demanding that he ask his partner for "another angle"?

Actually, that would have at least made this post at least somewhat interesting.

[SethPDX]

Originally Posted by greymule

Not sure if your comment about the great scoring expert Joe Morgan was tongue in cheek or not. Given what you described, I have the batter w/ a run-scoring single [assuming the runner scored] and advancing to 2B on the throw.

That's what everybody in the park and in the viewing audience had, too, except Joe.

Don't listen to Joe. Period. Problem solved.

[Skahtboi]

While we are on the topic of scoring, I was at a bar last night, and this hot blonde walks in......